House Flag

[Jools_of_Top_Cat]

I intend to design and have my crew (wedding dress disigner and builder) make it for me, she has basically done all the soft furnishing on board and is well capable of turning out a proffessional looking job.

My flag will have a cat as on my transom and a pair of heavenly stars (the class logo as on main etc.)

I know there are some flag experts on the forum, so would appreciate any do's or dont's. I would like it to be square, is there a standard house flag size? Is it ok to be square or should it be a pennant, if so what size? I am thinking of white with blue design, is this ok, are there any rules on colours?

Am I right in assuming the house flag should be worn at the masthead?

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thanks for any help

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[tamarnessie]

Hi Jools,
I'm no flag expert, but I've found this in an old RYA Flags & Visual Signals manual:

"The design is a matter entirely for the owner, the only stipulation being that the design must not conflict with an existing regulation or any other Ensign, flag or burgee."
and:
"In single-masted yachts, the flag should be flown from the starboard yard-arm or, if there is no yard-arm, from the starboard upper crosstrees or similar position.
In schooners or yachts with more than two masts, it should be flown from the masthead."
Hope this helps!

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[tamarnessie]

Sorry - I missed a bit out (useless at typing.......)
"In schooners or yachts with more than two masts, it should be flown from the fore masthead.
In yawls or ketches, it may be flown from the mizzen masthead or from the yard-arm or crosstrees ot the mainmast."

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[Twister_Ken]

If you want to fly it from the cross trees I would suggest rectangular in 2:3 proportions - much more elegant, and being a flag you want more 'fluttery bits' than non-fluttery.

If to be flown from the forestay as a 'battle flag', its usual for the 'luff' to slope at the forestay angle, so that the flag flies straight out from the forestay without in-built droop. Forestay flags tend to be considerable longer than than their height.

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[Viking]

Augusts PBO explains all with 'skippers cut out card'

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[Jools_of_Top_Cat]

Ok, so if I wear it on the stbd x tree which already hosts my welsh standard; is the welsh standard the primary flag. Would it be disrespectful to fly the courtesy welsh standard below the ships house flag.

I think the house should take precedence, what is the rule, all help appreciated.


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[Twister_Ken]

Flag ettykette

Don't get me going on flags. Oh, you already have!

If you are flying a Welsh flag as a sign of your own Taffosity, then I'd argue you should say eff-off to the UK and replace your red/blue ensign with the Dragon.

If OTOH you are 1st and 4most a Brit, and you're flying the dragon to be kind to the local peasantry, it should be at the stbd x-trees. Any other flag would be inferior to that, either worn beneath the dragon, or flown at the port x-trees.

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[Jools_of_Top_Cat]

Re: Flag ettykette

I am English, I fly it as a courtesy, the moorings in Wales and sailing around the Welsh coast.

Thinking about it, is should remain the primary flag, so above my proposed house flag.

Anyway, off to the boat, work to do before our two week cruise to hopefully the delights of Irish hospitality.

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[ccscott49]

Welsh flag I believe should be on the port spreader. Stb spreader is for courtesy flags etc.

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[Sybarite]

Re: Flag ettykette

My understanding is that nothing should be flown above or below a national courtesy flag on the starboard crosstrees. Any other flags are flown on the port cross-trees.

John

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[kingfisher]

Regional flags can be flown out of courtesy, and should therefor be on the starboard crosstree (except for gaffs, see above).

So a welsh dragon, if flown, has to be stbd crosstree, above all others.

National-regional-local, in that order. So if in Oostende: Belgina tricolore (obligatory), followed by flemish lion, followed by west-flemish provincial flag (if you insist on a colour display). Depends on the amount of regional pride and sens of oppressed minority:
-Basque region (allthough Spanish/French authorities might take issues)
-Breton
-Flanders
-Wales/schotland

All other 'decorative' flags (MoBo pennant, house flag), port crosstree plz.


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