Horrific boating crash on Sydney Harbour - Five/six dead

Joyriding teenage scum.

My sympathies lie with the crew on the fishing boat.

It's a good job the perpetrators were hurt, rather than innocent bystanders.
 
Not condoning the joyriding in any way but still a pretty heavy price to pay.

When this sort of thing happens I tend to wonder how I would feel, as a parent, receiving that knock on the door by the police in the morning.

Tom
 
Bit harsh that they were only youngsters. Im sure lots of us have done stupid things as kids. Yes they deserved punishing but losing their lives?
 
Yep, I did stupid things, but stealing tens of thousands of pounds worth of Boat, and careering around a coastal harbour flat out when overloaded with other drunken thieves was not one of them.

It's like stealing cars isn't it? It's very very wrong, very very dangerous, and inevitably undertaken by callous, arrogant little pricks who think they are above the law.

Now imagine it was your boat, or perhaps they had mowed you down in your tender, killed your family members etc.

Keep your sympathy Gentlemen, these people do not deserve mine.
 
Me too.......however, getting dead is a bit harsh, but just maybe it will be a lesson for others?.........Dya think?


Naaaaaaaa.
 
Whatever happened to"Innocent until proven guilty". 1. The trawler hit the joy riding kids. 2. Police are still investigating cause. Another person died this A.M. 3. As yet alcohol has not been proved/disproved, speed has not been ruled in/out on the part of either vessel, nor has the lack or not of lights. 4. Boat was not stolen, but used/taken by someone who knew where the spare key was hidden. 5. whilst not so important, the joy riders were on a "workboat" not a "dream machine". I was a member of a marine rescue service (search/ recovery ). A little bit of restraint please, until we know more. Peter P.
 
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4. Boat was not stolen, but used/taken by someone who knew where the spare key was hidden

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Oh thats OK then.

TWOC is the term our Police use, and it's still theft.
 
Guess you'll never know for sure, but yes, death is perhaps to sever a penalty.
But hopefully will serve as a warning to others.
 
Yes, but managed to resist stealing boats or cars (although thankfully time has drawn a veil over the more loony activities).

While I can sympathise with the view that I would want to choke the living s**t out of any b*****d who stole my boat or car, I don't think that a fatal conclusion would make me feel any better.

As always it is the families who will suffer after an event such as this.

Tom
 
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Joyriding teenage scum.

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This morning the list of the first five dead show that not one victim was a teenager. They were Alex Nikakis, 29; Jessica Savanna Holloway, 25; Alexander Rumiz, 22; Stacey Wright, 21; Elizabeth Holder, 20.

On the face of it they were 'normal' young men and women who embarked on a voyage of misadventure.

According to my brother, the local buzz on the North Shore is that they were ordinary hard working people who had a few drinks and decided to take a trip in the work boat as one of them knew where the key was kept. There is some speculation that the instigator was or is an employee or member of the family that owned the company that ran the boat.

My brother tells me they were all from the Balmain area of Sydney - the South Shore - and they worked in the pub trade as bar staff.

So far, there is little to show these people were feral scrotes.

Latest news story.
 
I'm sorry, I'll rephrase that:

I meant 'Murderers'

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STACEY Wright finished her shift at the Unity Hall Hotel in Balmain at midnight. She was looking forward to joining her mates at the Commercial Hotel, a short walk from Sydney Harbour.

The 21-year-old from Wollongong had lived in Sydney on and off since finishing high school and she was loving it.

One of her friends knew of a half-cabin cruiser, which he took to the nearby Darling Street Wharf. At 1am, Ms Wright and 12 other merrymakers were ready to climb on board to party at sea. They were, the pilot told people on the wharf, bound for Watsons Bay.

Several onlookers warned that the boat was overcrowded. "Everyone on the wharf was concerned," fisherman Andre Ogle said. He recognised Ms Wright. "I know her like I know someone who's friendly and bubbly and works at the pub you frequent … We all commented again and again (about overcrowding)."
As the six-metre boat roared off into the darkness, Mr Ogle yesterday remembered a friend turning to him and saying: "There goes tomorrow's front-page news story."

Less than two hours later, Ms Wright was dead in the water 200 metres off Bradleys Head. Three other young women — including an American and a youth worker from Darwin — and a man, Alex Pondy, a barman at The Clock Hotel in Surry Hills, also died after the aluminium cruiser was involved in a collision with a fishing boat at 2.30am.

Barrister Wayne Baffsky heard the impact. "It was so loud, I heard an almighty thump from my unit in Bondi Junction," he said.

Another nine people on board the cruiser were injured and taken to the Royal North Shore Hospital. Three remain in hospital, including a 30-year-old man who was on life support last night after surgery for a brain injury.



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http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/tears-follow-horror/2008/05/01/1209235059159.html

Thieves:

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John McPherson, whose Sydney Ship Repair and Engineering company owns the boat, said yesterday it was taken from its berth without permission and wasn't being used by any of his workers.



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And Idiots:

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Witnesses have said the young people boarded the runabout with a case of beer after a night in a pub in the harbourside suburb of Balmain.


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Do you reckon that nice Austrian man with a Cellar is innocent too?
 
<span style="color:blue"> "Sydney Ship Repair and Engineering last night confirmed that a former contractor of the company was one of those on the half-cabin vessel. "He is not related to the owners of this business; however, he is a relative of one of our employees," the company said in a written statement." </span>

Misadventure/man slaughter, not murder(ers)
 
While I have the utmost respect for you as a person and boater, I think you're splitting hairs.

I work in an industry which is being defacated all over by seemingly nice, but in reality, very nasty people who do as they wish with no regards whatsoever for anybodies feelings, the law, common sense or decency.

My reserve of sympathy nowadays, whats left of it, is kept for deserving causes, not a boatload of dead party animals.

They wanted kicks didn't they? Well the ignorant little cretins got a lifetimes worth. Perhaps they should have stuck to getting ratfaced and making everybodies life a misery pissing in shop doorways, waking everybody up on the way home each night, drink driving and smoking weed.

I'll bet most of them did you know. Nicking a boat is far worse, doing it after a night drinking and against the advice of boat savvy people is way beyond 'naughtiness' isn't it?

I have nothing but contempt for these creatures. they are everything bad about modern society.

I repeat: Your boat gets stolen and trashed, or your Wife gets crushed by a boatload of yuppy yobs, are you still going to be so forgiving?
 
I just thought your use of language was over the top and you were too willing to pre judge even before the first enquiries were made into the event. It is a tragedy of the first order, but it appears to be a misadventure fuelled by drink, rather than sober, determined and habitual joyriders. What is odd though, it was a cold night and not one for an early hours jaunt on the harbour.

You are going to hate me. I have nicked your Keep Right for my MSN avatar.
 
Ah, you noticed /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

It's OK, I found it on the web, and stole, er borrowed it.... /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
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It's OK, I found it on the web, and stole, er borrowed it.... /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

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Thief!

Or merely indulging in a bit of high spirits. /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
 
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Ah, you noticed /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

It's OK, I found it on the web, and stole, er borrowed it.... /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

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Thief!

Or merely indulging in a bit of high spirits. /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

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I don't condone your comments as they are entirely wrong and based upon prejudice.

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Your call /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
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