Honda 2HP 4 Stroke - What Do You Think?

[dauntlessman]

Good Morning!

I've needed an outboard for my tender for a while and yesterday picked up (what I think was) a bargain on eBay. Possibly because the guy refused to post it and it was in Penzance!

It's a 2006 Honda, 2HP, 4 stroke with about 7 hours run time (so he says anyway). It cost me £260. Do you think I got a good deal here?

However there was a bit of a problem and being a bit of a newbie to outboards, hoped you might be able to help. When I got down there the seller had filled it right to the tope with fuel (and I mean right to the top).

I stuck it on my tender to give it a bit of a test run and it went fine, running and ticking over fine and started first time despite not being used for 4 weeks. However there was a little bit of fuel dripping out of the engine, particularly when left to idle. This seemed to get gradually better though was still dripping a bit half an hour later. It looked like the fuel was coming from a transparent plastic hose (looks like a run-off hose) attached to the carb.

What do you think may have been the cause of this? Was it simply over filled or was it flooded? Since it was idling fine, I am assuming that the engine is set up correctly.

The chap who sold it to me has given me until 8 pm this evening to get a full refund but I would like to avoid this as I think it was a good deal.

Thanks - Alex

 

[Lakesailor]

It may be the needle valve in the float chamber is stuck. Perhaps through not being used. If you know where to tap it you can shake them free. If you don't know where to tap it you may break something. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[michael_w]

Take it back. It's a dreadful little brute:

Noisy.

Seems to need filling up with petrol every 5 minutes.

The so-called clutch is the source of much embarrasing boat handling.

All the fastenings have been tightened by a sumo wrestler, as result the boltheads burr the plastic housing on the motor making a lot of maintanence items impossible to get at.

The viscious(sp) compression did in SWMBO´s elbow.

Blessed relief to palm the thing off on an unsuspecting Frenchman in PX for a Yamaha 2-stroke 4hp.

 

[m1taylor]

I think that's a little unfair. I have used the Honda 2.3 on a small tender and found it very good - altho' I would like something lighter. Yes, it's noisy, but so are most small outboards. And you have no salt water clogging to worry about in water channels as its air cooled. The clutch takes a bit of getting used to, but having a twist grip throttle is much better than the flimsy levers on the small two strokes. As for petrol - I am surprised by that comment - a tank full lasts around 1 hour - can you name another small outboard of that size that does any better?

 

[owen]

I think the float may be stuck which is unusual when so new. personally i would get a refund.if you go poking around dismantalling carbs the seller may rightly not want to refund you.
as for the merits of 2v 4 stroke they have been well aired before.
i have both honda and a yam 3.5 2 stroke. i find the honda v economical(but small tank);light,no mixing oil and petrol. no worry re cooling .the yam uses much more petrol, is heavier but can be started by the kids and swmbo which is why i bought it

 

[FullCircle]

Like the Honda, I find it economical and reliable.
As said elsewhere, the float valve is stuck.
If it is a 2006 model, you have a 439 quid engine for 260 quid. Get it serviced if you dont know one end of an outboard from the other. These machines have a five year warranty, so maybe a possible claim if you transfer the detail correctly with the paperwork.

 

[colvic987]

if you dont like it return it and go and spend another £110 on a new one, if it is only this years model and it is faulty, you have got a 5 year guarantee, i bought one in 2001 and have used it every weekend to get to my swinging mooring, it has worked fine and without any problems, i service it myself with an oil change each year, and reckon it will be trouble free for another 5 years at least....

you have got a bargain there, if the guy has filled it to the top and some fuel is leaking out, its expected...why has the guy got rid of it.. you have a 24 hour guarntee from him... so make your mind up, bargain or not....keep or get rid...
the choice is yours...

i you don't think you have a bargain, and the returnable option has lapsed then put it back on ebay, and let someone else snap it up.

the four strokes are different from the two strokes, no mixing oil ect. aircooled, but i got used to it within time....

 

[fastjedi]

Keep it. £260 quid for a 2006 model is a good deal. The 'fuel leak' may fix itself or is unlikey to break the bank if you do have to pay. I swapped from a 2003 Mariner for a new Honda last year .... no comparison, although I do accept that the clutch isn't always an asset!

 

[bigmart]

Fantastic piece of kit. Keep It, You won't regret it.

I've had one for a few years now & its great. Last summer I had to strap my flubber alongside my boat, The Diesel had died, The Honda pushed My 26 footer & the flubber along at over 3 Knots.

I reckon thats pretty good for a 2 horse.

Martin

 

[cliff]

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a tank full lasts around 1 hour - can you name another small outboard of that size that does any better?

[/ QUOTE ]Mercury3.3/Tohatsu/3.5 2Ts
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"Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity"

 

[TrueBlue]

Are you sure it's a 2006 model? Mine has a girt big sticker on it saying 2006 - in small letters it says meets 2006 EPA regulations. it was made in 1999.......

There's a label on the transom mount showing the year of manufacture. Check it.

no disrespect meant to your seller BUT I've notice some very tatty engines being sold in Penzance on eBay. Pays o be cautious

 

[Lakesailor]

Probably too late now with regards to returning it, but a dealer I bought from told me he decided to boost his second-hand stock by buying on e-bay. Every single motor he bought was crap and he ended up using them for spares.

 

[dauntlessman]

Thanks for all your suggestions on this. Yes I was wrong about the year of manufacture, it was 2005.

Anyway my local outboard dealer (a friend of a friend) had a look last night, confirmed it was the float needle and fixed it for £20. He also confirmed that the engine was in excellent order.

The seller then refunded me £50 for my trouble. I guess I can't complain!!!

 

[Lakesailor]

Now that's a bargain. Always nice to have an experienced eye look over something like that.