Holiday Snaps

[tome]

Just received some great pictures of Amaya sailing round Portland Bill, we were doing 7-8 knots on a reach in company with friends who were sailing an HR49. It's the first time we've managed to get decent pictures under sail. Here's a couple of my favourites (taken by Robert Prinsen SY Zeewind)

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[claymore]

Lovely shots - do you think the Genny is a little full in the bottom one - perhaps just a tweak on the car to flatten a touch, and perhaps another pound on the Main halliard, or a smidge down on the Cunningham just to tease out those tiny creases along the luff?

Don't we all just love a smartarse!!


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Claymore
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[tome]

Yes, right on both counts and it's astonishing how much else I've learned from studying the photos. There's a series of 23 from every angle and I've made a lot of notes as a result. She was touching 8.2 knots and it's hard to believe I could have got any more out of her, but the evidence is plain to see in the pictures.

Robert (on the other boat) made similar comments when he saw the shots we had taken of his boat, so no smartarse comments from me!

Humble of Amaya

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[Twister_Ken]

Nice pix, but those giant sail numbers must put a lot of extra weight aloft!

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[tome]

Yep, sometimes have to lower them a bit in a blow...

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[qsiv]

Theres absolutely nothing so useful as getting off your boat and seeing her under sail - or seeing stills/video shot from off the boat. Years ago met Fred Imhoff (something akin to a Dutch version of Paul Elvstrom), who was emphatic as to the value of this. The Imhoff & Pranger bible (boat Tuning for Speed from memory) is still relevant today, even though the Flying Dutchman is no longer the benchmark dinghy. Much of what was written applies to todays keelboats, even if it has limited relevance to the new skiff style dinghys.

I was mortified by some shots of the boat last year - it all looked so good, so right from the cockpit - but from off the lee quarter the truth was plain to see!

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[MainlySteam]

And just to be really picky, 'specialy as everything else is just so good - the hoist at the starboard spreader is just a bit high to look comfortable!

Really though, very good photographs of a pretty and purposeful boat.

John

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[MainlySteam]

Tome - who was the designer of the Heritage 37?

Thanks

John

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[tome]

It was Holman & Pye

Regards
Tom

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[Twister_Ken]

Designer

I'm sure Tome will jump in if I'm wrong, but I think it is a Holman & Pye design, mainly attributable to Don Pye, not Kim Holman.

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[MainlySteam]

Thanks Tom. Your genoa is also one of the very few I have seen around these days which appears to have had the sailmaker go to the trouble of sewing the tack marks onto its foot - unless they are shadows or something. Again, very nicely turned out.

John

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[tome]

John

Hadn't spotted this, but quite right the hoist would look better if not up against the spreader. Here's another one which shows that the genoa car should be further aft as Claymore suggests

Regards
Tom

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[Twister_Ken]

Sailmaker

Who built the genoa? It's a good looking sail.

PS is the boom topping lift a little tight?

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[tome]

John

These are roller-reefing marks which were not sewn on by the sailmaker, but added by myself to make life easier. They are lengths of spinnaker repair tape split lengthwise and fixed to the sail foot after first cleaning the surface with acetone.

I also marked the furling line with coloured whipping, and have to admit these are easier to use than the ones on the sail. They car positions are also marked for each reef position.

Regards
Tom

Regards
Tom

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[MainlySteam]

Re: Designer

Thanks Ken - I think Holman did your Twister? Always have a genuine interest when see photographs of the modern classic boats as we see very few of them out here of course.

I think my pick would be one of them and do up if necessary rather than some of the new ones around. May not be the same room but, putting aside the sailing attributes, room is not everything - the idea that once you have more than two people on board no boat has enough room is pretty true.

John

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[tome]

Re: Sailmaker

It was built by Arun sails after we blew out the previous one and is just a year old. Very pleased with it.

Topping lift was ok as I tend to slack it off completely and then put it (and the reefing lines) to sleep to stop them slapping. Might not look like this in the photos though.

Regards
Tom

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[tome]

Quite agree - I had just finished taking shots of the other boat and had lowered the main so I could move around his boat more easily under power/jib to allow Karen to take some close shots. He started to take pictures of us and I signalled him to stop until we were under full sail again. I hoisted the main and had a good look from the cockpit - everything looked fine until I saw the photos.

Here's Karen lurking with camera under the sprayhood, her humble servant on helm

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[MainlySteam]

I'll upset Claymore. While it is a bit hard to tell from the photos, I would not be too critical of the genoa car position. The clew appears to be already lifting letting the top of the leech drop forward and moving the car back, unless one sheeted the sail in harder (and that would not appear to me to be warranted), the top of the leech may go further forward again. A problem I think with genoas when one gets onto a reach and beyond where the clew is not close in over the track - we experience the same.

John

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[tome]

John

It's always easy (and great fun) to be critical, but in fairness I detected a fair bit of 'tongue in cheek' in Claymores response. To take things to extremes you could move the car further aft and add a barber hauler to the clew to tension the leech at the top of the sail on a reach. Having said that, we were on holiday and my only crew was busy with her camera!

I'm very happy with the pictures, and equally happy with the constructive criticism from all.

Regards
Tom




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[Twister_Ken]

Re: Designer

Yes, the Twister was just about Holman's most famous design. What I like about it is that in most circumstances it can be sailed one handed (not the same as single handed!). Having spent most of my youth and middle years shagging myself out trimming genoas and kites on 40+ footers, the idea of sailing without heavy-breathing is very attractive! And I can still sail, on the wind at least, at speeds to embarrass more modern and bigger caravans. Different when the wind goes free though. A Twister won't plane at the sort of windspeeds I prefer to sail in.

If you like that sort of thing, plus planing, have you seen the <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.hunterboats.com/mystery.htm>Hunter Mystery</A>?

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