Hitler couldn't "sink" it, but the MCA will

[Robert Wilson]

Dunkirk "little ship" and other Thames pleasure cruise boats will be put out of business by new "SAFETY"?? rules to be imposed by the MCA.
Radical and eye-wateringly costly alterations to be imposed on operators, including, in one case, closing of the lower (salon) deck.

Hitler's henchmen are alive and kicking (operators and passengers in their teeth).
What is the MCA's agenda? To make the pleasure boating fraternity a no-go situation?
Who is at the helm of these frighteningly over-zealous and Draconian civil servants?
What can be done to reign them in?

 

[nortada]

Dunkirk "little ship" and other Thames pleasure cruise boats will be put out of business by new "SAFETY"?? rules to be imposed by the MCA.
Radical and eye-wateringly costly alterations to be imposed on operators, including, in one case, closing of the lower (salon) deck.

Hitler's henchmen are alive and kicking (operators and passengers in their teeth).
What is the MCA's agenda? To make the pleasure boating fraternity a no-go situation?
Who is at the helm of these frighteningly over-zealous and Draconian civil servants?
What can be done to reign them in?

Link

 

[Robert Wilson]

It was on BBC Breakfast about half an hour ago.
Sorry, no further link information

 

[duncan99210]

Same sort of thing has happened to WW2 vintage aircraft. New regulations meant that they could no longer be used in commercial flights. Not sure what Hitler has to do with this though?

 

[RichardS]

It's Elf and Safety gorn mad. Again.

Richard

 

[Robert Wilson]

Same sort of thing has happened to WW2 vintage aircraft. New regulations meant that they could no longer be used in commercial flights. Not sure what Hitler has to do with this though?

An off-beat link to the Dunkirk Little Ship's survival and linked to my feelings for the MCA's strangling of pleasure boating.

 

[KellysEye]

It is healh and safety madness the boats have been operating safely for decades wth no problems so why do the prats want to change it.

 

[JumbleDuck]

Dunkirk "little ship" and other Thames pleasure cruise boats will be put out of business by new "SAFETY"?? rules to be imposed by the MCA.
Radical and eye-wateringly costly alterations to be imposed on operators, including, in one case, closing of the lower (salon) deck./QUOTE]

I am shocked, shocked to learn that boats over seventy five years old may not meet modern safety standards.

 

[Robert Wilson]

My first proper boat, bought in 1962 but built in 1897, is still sailing. She is completing another refit(build) and will be competing in the Mediterranean Classic Series soon.
Myfanwy, built by S.Bond& Co. on the Mersey

 

[Resolution]

Dunkirk "little ship" and other Thames pleasure cruise boats will be put out of business by new "SAFETY"?? rules to be imposed by the MCA.
Radical and eye-wateringly costly alterations to be imposed on operators, including, in one case, closing of the lower (salon) deck./QUOTE]

I am shocked, shocked to learn that boats over seventy five years old may not meet modern safety standards.

Just as I was shocked to learn on this forum that some of the language that I have been using for maybe 65 years no longer meets modern usage standards.

 

[Tomahawk]

This is the same outfit that is consulting on a badly written document that doesn't make much sense as well as sacking experienced officers for not following arbitrary instructions.

 

[Concerto]

This is not new. The Medway Queen paddle steamer, veteran of Dunkirk, is being restored. The hull has been completely rebuilt, but they changed the main keel as well due to rust. This meant is was not a restored hull, but a new one. So now modern safety regulations apply. Due to its stability calculations, it would not be able to carry hundreds of passengers as planned - but now restricted to only 12 paying passengers! (once engines are fitted) So this vessel will not be able to pay its way like the Waverley. Its destiny will probably be as a ship permanently tied to a drying wharf on the Medway.

 

[Tomahawk]

This is not new. The Medway Queen paddle steamer, veteran of Dunkirk, is being restored. The hull has been completely rebuilt, but they changed the main keel as well due to rust. This meant is was not a restored hull, but a new one. So now modern safety regulations apply. Due to its stability calculations, it would not be able to carry hundreds of passengers as it safely did for it's entire life before the rebuild - but now restricted to only 12 paying passengers! (once engines are fitted) So this vessel will not be able to pay its way like the Waverley. Its destiny will probably be as a ship permanently tied to a drying wharf on the Medway.

I hope you don't mind my slight edit?

 

[Graham376]

Same sort of thing has happened to WW2 vintage aircraft. New regulations meant that they could no longer be used in commercial flights. Not sure what Hitler has to do with this though?

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[capnsensible]

Imagine the forum howling if one sinks and there is a tragic loss of life?

Damned professional dont know what they are doing why wasnt there any regulations why dont the authorities stamp on this kind of thing wah wah wah.

So instead we get wasnt like that in my day let them drown serves em right we werent mollycoddled namby pamby wah wah wah.

Probably from the same people.

 

[capnsensible]

Stuff, like people, get old and are no longer, to use that eternal phrase on here when the slightest thing goes wrong, 'fit for purpose'.

 

[vyv_cox]

It is odd that old cars, nowhere near the age of some of these vessels, are viewed in a totally different way. I have a 1972 three-wheeler that is exempt from MOT and tax. It is awaiting restoration and is currently a death trap but I could legally drive it on the road.

 

[Old Harry]

Link

Its just been on the beeb news. What are the facts, how many accidents,deaths have happened to impose these "proposed" changes

 

[Kukri]

It is odd that old cars, nowhere near the age of some of these vessels, are viewed in a totally different way. I have a 1972 three-wheeler that is exempt from MOT and tax. It is awaiting restoration and is currently a death trap but I could legally drive it on the road.

Good point. Your three wheeler and your boat both come under the jurisdiction of the same Ministry - the Department for Transport - headed of course by Chris Grayling...

 

[Balbas]

It is odd that old cars, nowhere near the age of some of these vessels, are viewed in a totally different way. I have a 1972 three-wheeler that is exempt from MOT and tax. It is awaiting restoration and is currently a death trap but I could legally drive it on the road.

No you couldn't. It doesn't need an MoT, but to drive it on the road in an unroadworthy condition is still an offence.