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There was me thinking our Marina takes a maximum length of 20m then low and behold the Spanish bend the rules to suit themselves and allow a lovely
Princess 67 to berth. Strangley the name is similar to yours this one "Jenny 7"
 
Come on Clive you know it isnt the length that matters its the width....... /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
Blimey, does that count as bending the rules in Spain, 20m is 66 ft, and Mike's boat is 67.

Jfm and I have 18m boats on 15m berths in France, now that's bending the rules a bit :-)
 
Hi Nick yup they will not give an inch literally. A boat measuring 40ft for instance should be 12.16m (.304 x 40) thus they would make you pay for a 15m berth no hestitation.

A customer of mine has a Martinique 36 on his own 12m berth and has told them he wants to buy a portifino 40, which is just over 12m, and they will not let him put it on the berth he actually owns.

Our previous school boat the fairline 50 is 15.2m shes been on a 20m and charged since arriving.

Now on the other had if it suits them like its now off season they have some gaps, they have let this P67 in (probably Spanish flagged I'll check) which is 20.368m
well in excess of there maximum permitted length of 20m. I dont doubt its over the max width too max (20 x 5.5m) perhaps Mike can confirm his beam :~)

Im afraid its the Spanish way anyway of getting wonga out of poor old mr expat
 
Mike did the name mean anything to you by the way?

Following on from my reply to Nick there is a nother example, they let you stop on the waiting pontoon for a short period for lunch even though you exceeded the Marina length and width limit, and charged you a whole days berthing
 
Clive the dimensions of the 67 are 20.75m x 5.23m

I think Duquesa and Estepona being govnmnt owned are a bit of a law unto themselves. In fact most of the harbours that I have been to in Spain are quirky, I think there attitudes are appauling.

Banus is a little more reasonable for instance as long as you dont exceed the maximum beam you can be as long as you want (as long as it doesnt interfere with other boats).

I have been to Estepona lots of times this year for lunch and everytime they charge me a full day rate for 2 hours on the waiting quay. Makes lunch a little expensive.

Jenny7 was in Banus a month or two ago I think it was either Portugese or Spanish cant remember.

However back to the point about over sized boats in berths i am sure that as long as you dont exceed the beam you are fine.
 
"A customer of mine has a Martinique 36 on his own 12m berth and has told them he wants to buy a portifino 40, which is just over 12m, and they will not let him put it on the berth he actually owns".

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Lozzer as you can see from my paragraph above exceeding the length is not permitted on an owned berth cos technically they dont make owt from it so they are awkward.

Now on a rental berth when it suits them to "fill the gap" and take rent they bend the rules.
 
Hi Clive

No - I hadnt heard of Jenny 7 until this thread.
Bit of a coincidence.

At Sant Carles, they are quite specific about the sizes allowed.
You are allowed 10% longer than the berth's nominal length - i.e. our 20m will take a 22m boat.
But they also say that you should allow 3% in the beam for fenders.
In fact we are very slightly (a few millimetres) over this but I got them to agree to allowing the boat prior to us buying both the berth and the boat.

I have a small concern though that I'd forgotten - I need to check if the marina's travel lift is big enough - I'm prety sure it is but I need to check. Not a big problem because the nearby spanish marina definately has a big enough lift.

Mike
 
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