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Guys,


Currently looking at upgrading from my 2007 Bayliner 192 to either a S25 (190 Deisel) or Maxum 2400SE (Petrol) both 2007 models. I plan to spend at lest 1 -2 weekends per month on Loch Lomond with it (will be berthed in the marina). I will be staying on it with my wife and 2 year old son.

Can anyone give me their thought or experience with either or both boats and Pro's and con's/safety etc. Or is there another boat out there that would be better or more suitable or larger living space?


Thanks for reading and look forward to your comments.

Chris
 
we looked at loads of cruisers in this size (including the maxum) before going with sealine on thier S23 model (same as the S25).
I think the main thing that help us make the decision was the fact that the sealine by far had the best and more practical interior. It had plenty of storage space, both in terms of under seat lockers and more importantly more shelf space, cupboards etc. This meant that we could stock the boat up with plenty of items without having to cart stuff back and forth everytime we went down there. We once looked at a bayliner and realised it had no shelfs in the cabin, the sales girl said it wouldn't be a problem - just put everything in a box on board!
It was also more practical in terms of having a gas grill and hobbs, so that when we are in the middle of nowhere (we cruise on the thames), we can always boil a kettle and cook basic items. Most american boats rely on electric hook up for the this.
I wouldn't know which is best for performance wise as we only cruise up and down the river, but would recommend the sealine based on how much we have enjoyed our boat.
 
We owned a Maxum 2400SC3 last season. We liked the boat very much but it is, in our opinion, very much a day boat with little accommodation and absolutely no facilities. Very little storage space, no galley area, no loo, no shower etc. I would certainly not recommend one if you will be doing any overnighting.

As to performance, ours had the Mag 350 300HP engine and we could easily get 42 knots + from her. A fantastic sports boat for calmish waters.

We now own a Sealine S38 so have moved away from the sports side. I would recommend you go for the Sealine.

BTW, if you do buy the Maxum and want a brand new custom fit, custom made all over winter/trailerable cover then drop me a PM. We have one, unused, that we would let go for a song. (Apologies for blatant advertising :) )
 
You are talking about different boats, the SC model is the sports boat, they also do a 2400 Cruiser with 4 berths and facilities.

The other boat to look at is the Bayliner 245 or 265, I have my 2007 265 Bayliner for sale with Aquatics at the moment, we looked at the S23/S25, the Maxum and the Bayliner 245 when we purchased. We went for the 265 just becuase it was so much bigger down below than the other two but you can just still tow it with a Land Rover/Range Rover. Only selling because we have not used the Boat this year due to work.

Any other questions please ask.
 
I have owned both US and UK built sports cruisers, and to my mind there is no comparison. Go for the Sealine. Not only does it have a more suitable accommodation for UK needs, will be much better built, and more durable.

The US boat will be considerably cheaper for a comparable build year, but the Sealine will be cheaper in the long run as it will maintain value better.
 
Hi Honeybee,

One thing I noticed when looking at similar boats was the amount of 'foot' room you get at the bottom of the front berth. The Sealine had an extra bit under the seat backs at the front (see pic) which I felt would probably make sleeping aboard that little bit more comfortable. Also the Sealine has side decks which the US sportscruisers usually don't.

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I see you're berthed on B leg opposite us now in the marina (we're on A leg). There's a couple of S23/25s down there that are used a lot so might be worth asking them for a look around to see how they feel on the water.

Cheers :)
 
Yip thats me am back ! There is one right next to me which looks awsome and thats gave me the kick to start looking for one for us. I don't want to go to large as normally I have to bring the boat in myself single handed due to the wife being with the 2 year old and if another comes along she will have her hands full - so the S25 size looks managable.

Chris
 
When our daughter was smaller, I was effectively single-handed. And still am sometimes.

I wouldn't worry about "going too large" - I find an S28 with twin engines no harder (than the previous S24) to helm once you get used to it. In some ways it's easier, due to having a bit more control, and the bow not being blown around so much.

Only downsides are that the marina doesn't grow just because you bought a bigger boat, plus there is a bigger dent in the pontoon if it does go wrong :eek:
 
As someone who wanted to keep at the 25ft range (so it could be trailered) for last purchase, I ended up with an S23 after a LOT of looking around (and owning previous same sized boats)

Things for me were:
Side-decks
Nice canopy (Relative to how well it was taken care of)
Diesel
Hot water
Hot air
Big engine bay that's easy to work on (I'm 6foot tall)
Practical yet stylish
For 25ft, big cabin
Toilet can actually be used
Cabin that I can stand in
You can comfortably sit 5/6 people around the table in the cabin
Twin gas hob
Hugeeee sink so you can wash your pots after you eat
Fridge outside (so no dirty carpets)

The only downsides for me are:
Fixed carpet in the cabin
Cockpit isin't that big, but plenty big for a 25ft
Small bathing platform


I'd recommend one in a heartbeat if you're looking at a ~25ft boat
 
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Roysie said:
Jenneau Leader 805 Diesel Owned one for 3 years now and would not swap for similar priced /size boat
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May be so, but used, they appear to be more in the S28 price bracket, and more expensive than the two boats the OP appears interested in.
 
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Hi,

Like many others here we went for the S23 for practicality as we spend our 2 week holiday on her ( just 2 of us plus dog)

Reasons- Diesel with a good range, gas cooker so we can overnight on a mooring, reasonable heads, accomodation ( we use the mid cabin that you have to crawl into but once there is quite spacious and leaves the saloon intact), good covers that we regularly leave up at sea in poorer weather

She is trailerable so we just had her taken to the south coast for our 2 week holiday

Well made and good seakeeping for the size.

We have had her 4 years now and are thinking of trading up for more space but we have found her about the best 25 footer for what we need.
 
can I suggest that you look at the bayliner 285 it is great value for money and very very spacious, ideal for loch lomond and obviously petrol availabilty is good, Cant tow it though,

Loch Lomond !!! - those were the days - and all that harmless fresh water
 
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Is the S23 really that good?

A good topic, since I am myself in the process of looking for a cruiser around 25ft (planning to import to Scandinavia from the UK).

I see a lot of praise for the S23 in many of these posts. Where I live, the Sealine range has never really been imported much except for some privately imported examples. Thus, they are a rare sight in the local marinas. However, reading these positive posts the S23 is suddenly almost at the top of my shortlist, without ever having had a chance to even see one in flesh!

So, what makes the S23 so special compared to the usual US-based suspects (of which there are numerous examples here in Scandinavia)?
 
ike70 said:
A good topic, since I am myself in the process of looking for a cruiser around 25ft (planning to import to Scandinavia from the UK).

I see a lot of praise for the S23 in many of these posts. Where I live, the Sealine range has never really been imported much except for some privately imported examples. Thus, they are a rare sight in the local marinas. However, reading these positive posts the S23 is suddenly almost at the top of my shortlist, without ever having had a chance to even see one in flesh!

So, what makes the S23 so special compared to the usual US-based suspects (of which there are numerous examples here in Scandinavia)?
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good question considering sealine is owned by the US based Brunswick Co
 
Wiggo said:
Much more of a 'pocket cruiser' than a lot of the US boats. You can actually spend a proper weekend aboard with a decent galley, cabin, heads, shower etc.
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Yup, i'd agree with the above. We've often spent 4 days at a time on the S23 no problem, it's a practical boat for it's size
 
Would go with Sealine every time but then I have a Sealine 310 which replaced my Sealine 255.

Would seriously look at petrol versions as the lighter weight and better power output suits smaller boats, especialy if you are not planning on serious sea time. both my 255 and 310 Statesman have been petrol, we are based on the Norfolk Broads but enjoy getting out to sea when we can and for our use I am convinced that not only is the purchase price lower but the overall running costs are lower too and when something does go wrong it usually costs a lot less than if it were diesel.

Ian
 
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