help - avon outboard and motor

[crashevs]

Ok , I am the proud owner if a 2nd hand Avon redcrest but I need some advice. It didn't come with a outboard mount so how much would I be expecting to pay for one and is there any online vendors? Also what would be a suitable motor for this tender? How much hp would be best and does the make matter? Any advice would be great
Thanks

 

[rafiki_]

You need to give us a bit more info on size etc. you should be able to find an outboard mounting on E Bay. As to the engine power, I am guessing that this is a small tender, so look for a 2 or 2.5 hp motor. Earlier 2 strokes will be lighter, and a bot smoother. 4 stroke generally more reliable but a bit heavier.

 

[skipmac]

Avon Redcrest only comes in one size, 9'. I would second the recommendation to go with 2-3 HP range.

The outboard bracket is made of two metal hoops that fit over the tube at the stern with a small wood piece to hold the outboard. Found one online for £115.50 at this vendor http://www.ronhalemarine.co.uk/superbasket/category/29/Avon_Spares_and_Accessories. Price seems about right unless you can find a used one.

DISCLAIMER: I not necessarily recommending this company. Could be great guys or crooks. I found them on the internet and that's all I know.

 

[penfold]

http://polymarineshop.com/outboard-bracket-small-medium.html

 

[crashevs]

Avon Redcrest only comes in one size, 9'. I would second the recommendation to go with 2-3 HP range.

The outboard bracket is made of two metal hoops that fit over the tube at the stern with a small wood piece to hold the outboard. Found one online for £115.50 at this vendor http://www.ronhalemarine.co.uk/superbasket/category/29/Avon_Spares_and_Accessories. Price seems about right unless you can find a used one.

DISCLAIMER: I not necessarily recommending this company. Could be great guys or crooks. I found them on the internet and that's all I know.

Thanks I'll check that out , I'm not really bothered if it's second hand though as the tendor is a used one anyway. I'll check eBay see what's going , so a 2hp will be ample then?

 

[penfold]

Nominally you can put up to 4 hp on them, but unless you pump them up really hard and have floorboards they just bend and give you a wetter bum than you were already getting. My insane brother put his 5 on one once and it planed, but he's not right in the head. I'd stick with whatever the smallest o/b is that you can find, ideally a Yamaha 2b or similar.

 

[Tranona]

Thanks I'll check that out , I'm not really bothered if it's second hand though as the tendor is a used one anyway. I'll check eBay see what's going , so a 2hp will be ample then?

Secondhand ones are as rare as hens teeth as they eventually corrode and new ones as you see are very expensive in relation to the cost of a secondhand boat.

Not the best boat for an outboard as it does not have a rigid transom. Get the lightest smallest motor you can - make sure it is standard shaft. Always pump the dinghy up hard - the pump will stop pumping when you get there and control the motor from the centre of the boat otherwise the stern sinks and the bow rises, with flipping a danger.

 

[VicS]

For what its worth:

 

[skipmac]

Secondhand ones are as rare as hens teeth as they eventually corrode and new ones as you see are very expensive in relation to the cost of a secondhand boat.

Have to second that.

Not the best boat for an outboard as it does not have a rigid transom.

Agree with that also, but since they row about like a child's wading pool if you plan to use it much the outboard does help matters.

 

[john_q]

they row about like a child's wading pool if you plan to use it much the outboard does help matters.

Try seven foot oars instead of the paddles provided and you will find they row better than most RIB's

 

[skipmac]

Try seven foot oars instead of the paddles provided and you will find they row better than most RIB's

I lived on board and had a Redcrest for my sole transportation for 2 years and did have a set of 7' oars. I have also rowed an Avon rib with smaller oars and I'll take the RIB any day, hands down.

To be honest saying a Redcrest rows like a child's wading pool is being unfair to the pool.

 

[RogerRat]

I would say go go for the smallest engine for light weight on transom bracket. It is also much easier to carry, fit and stow. A friend of mine has a 2Hp Yam that I think is, or will be available as sensible money. This is loads of power for such a dinghy.

I could check for you if interested.

RR

 

[TQA]

Ok , I am the proud owner if a 2nd hand Avon redcrest but I need some advice. It didn't come with a outboard mount so how much would I be expecting to pay for one and is there any online vendors? Also what would be a suitable motor for this tender? How much hp would be best and does the make matter? Any advice would be great
Thanks

If you don't have floorboards get them or make them. Makes it much nicer to use.

The standard steel coated with black stuff outboard mounts rust, esp.if used in salt water. Limited life so buy new. Someone made a stainless copy if you find one BUY IT!

Any two to three hp outboard will do but I prefer to have one with a neutral and hate the Honda with the centrifugal clutch that engages when you have it cold and then disintegrates in salt air after a short time. 2 strokes are simpler than 4 strokes.

 

[crashevs]

avon redcrest

Man thanks for the advice, I am taking all these options on board (no pun intended). Luckily the wooden floorboards came with the boat but they don't extend all the way the bow? Is this correct maybe they were custom made one and he didn't finish the job. Another issue i am having is getting the dingy inflated, my electric pump will blow it up with the valve open but as soon as I remove the pump the dingy loses a substantial amount of air before I can close the valve, I have tried inflating with the valve closed but it doesn't seem to get any air into the chamber. Do I need a special adaptor of sort or a different pump, any suggestions where u might be going wrong? Thanks

 

[penfold]

The standard boards stop short of the bow by a foot or so. It sounds like your pump isn't strong enough for the job; do you have a manual pump to try with?

 

[crashevs]

No , im gonna purchase one now and try it out with fingers crossed

 

[Hoblands]

Just seen this on Fleabay... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Avon-infl...at_Engines_EngineParts_SM&hash=item4d21ceaacf

 

[crashevs]

Thanks , I'm keeping a eye on it. I also found a jetmarine 4hp 4stroke longshaft outboard on fleabay for £225 , is this a good price and is it suitable for the redcrest, I'm thinking it looks a bit big and bulky so it might weigh down the stern?

 

[landlockedpirate]

Thanks , I'm keeping a eye on it. I also found a jetmarine 4hp 4stroke longshaft outboard on fleabay for £225 , is this a good price and is it suitable for the redcrest, I'm thinking it looks a bit big and bulky so it might weigh down the stern?

Nope, not suitable.

Too long shaft, too heavy engine, too poweful and most importantly, 2 too many strokes.

And its a Jetmarine, stick with established brands, you pay a bit more at the start but they retain (or even go up) in value.