Help/ Advise Needed on a new Boat under warranty

[Karnic]

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Hi Guys
Bought a new boat last year with a big big sacrifice and boat is under warranty. While doing some inspection i taught and friends recommended also that i should inspect the hull through fittings and to check the Jubilee clips. First problem i encountered is that these trough hull fittings are unreachable. Removed the drink holders in order to try to reach the jubilee clips in order for future checking and also could inspect the set up. Could manage to take some photos ( Attached ) but could not put my hand trough the holder hole and check tightness of the clip.
1. In your opinion are the hoses set up correctly in the fittings? Should the hose been inserted till the end of the fitting? And is the jubilee clip in right place? examining the set up carefully there seems to be a slot in the threaded fitting that seems the jubilee clip have to sit in there which in my case it isn't.
2. Do you recommend that i cut a larger drink holder hole or may be add another drink holder in order to gain space for my hand to reach the fittings comfortably and seasonally check for tightness of the clip? What if the Jubilee clip breaks or get loose? Have to find a way to replace the clip or if loose tighten it a bit.

Please Guys send your honest opinions. Appreciate lots. As said before boat is under warranty and to be honest with you i made a big sacrifice to buy it.
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[Tranona]

Think you will find the hoses clamp onto a spigot, not onto the threaded part of the fitting. The thread goes up that far so that the fitting can cope with different thicknesses. They are properly double clipped. They are under no strain and clips are extremely reliable. Even if they did come loose (how?) you may well find it a struggle to actually remove the hoses from the fitting.

So, nothing to worry about.

 

[aquatom]

Are these fittings above or below the waterline?

 

[[164147]]

Not the tidiest of jobs in the world - the clips aren't double-clipped and appear to be too big for the hose diameter. It appears one size fits all in this case. That said there's nothing to worry about assuming they're not below the waterline.

 

[Karnic]

Think you will find the hoses clamp onto a spigot, not onto the threaded part of the fitting. The thread goes up that far so that the fitting can cope with different thicknesses. They are properly double clipped. They are under no strain and clips are extremely reliable. Even if they did come loose (how?) you may well find it a struggle to actually remove the hoses from the fitting.

So, nothing to worry about.

Are these fittings above or below the waterline?

slightly above the waterline when boat is still but while underway or with people ( Heavy ) holes are underwater. Not that comfortable with them at least knowing that mayb with vibration they can come a bit loose. Dont know if its safe or not. Let us assume clip fails and hose gets out in the worst case scenario water will enter for sure 100 percent. In your view what is the best thing to do.?

 

[Karnic]

Not the tidiest of jobs in the world - the clips aren't double-clipped and appear to be too big for the hose diameter. It appears one size fits all in this case. That said there's nothing to worry about assuming they're not below the waterline.

Yes youre right. Preferred to double clip them and check for tightness. Holes are above waterline but when boat is underload water will enter the holes for sure. And what if the clip fails and in thew worst case scenario hose gets out what should i do? Also if with sea water clip rusts how could i change the clip? From your side what should have to be done? thinking to complain with the factory because from my poor knowledge before every season i have to check at least for thightnesses of the clips.

 

[Karnic]

Not the tidiest of jobs in the world - the clips aren't double-clipped and appear to be too big for the hose diameter. It appears one size fits all in this case. That said there's nothing to worry about assuming they're not below the waterline.

Are these fittings above or below the waterline?

Think you will find the hoses clamp onto a spigot, not onto the threaded part of the fitting. The thread goes up that far so that the fitting can cope with different thicknesses. They are properly double clipped. They are under no strain and clips are extremely reliable. Even if they did come loose (how?) you may well find it a struggle to actually remove the hoses from the fitting.

So, nothing to worry about.

Thanks for your reply but they arent double clipped. Thats why i inspected them in order to double clip them for peace of mind. What if in the worst case scenario clip fails or get rusty? last boat i had bilge pump clip failed and when pumping water out hose went out. Thats why im in a dilemma and preferred to check for tightness of clip and condition of clip.

 

[Karnic]

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[RobWales]

As stated previous not the tidiest job, however as these are for what I presume to be deck drains or similar and as they are not below the waterline they need not be doubled clipped.
Won't rust either as they are stainless from the look....
Top tip buy an extended flexi drive / driver and use a 1/4 hex socket to gain the required access if you are determined to check tightness for peace of mind.

 

[BruceK]

From what I can see double clipping those would have an adverse effect of pulling the hose off. Not the tidiest of jobs and access could be better but I wouldn't condemn it.

 

[Karnic]

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Thanks for your reply but they arent double clipped. Thats why i inspected them in order to double clip them for peace of mind. What if in the worst case scenario clip fails or get rusty? last boat i had bilge pump clip failed and when pumping water out hose went out. Thats why im in a dilemma and preferred to check for tightness of clip and condition of clip.

Yes youre right. Preferred to double clip them and check for tightness. Holes are above waterline but when boat is underload water will enter the holes for sure. And what if the clip fails and in thew worst case scenario hose gets out what should i do? Also if with sea water clip rusts how could i change the clip? From your side what should have to be done? thinking to complain with the factory because from my poor knowledge before every season i have to check at least for thightnesses of the clips.

As stated previous not the tidiest job, however as these are for what I presume to be deck drains or similar and as they are not below the waterline they need not be doubled clipped.
Won't rust either as they are stainless from the look....
Top tip buy an extended flexi drive / driver and use a 1/4 hex socket to gain the required access if you are determined to check tightness for peace of mind.

Yes deck drains and bilge hose

 

[BruceK]

From what I can see double clipping those would have an adverse effect of pulling the hose off. Not the tidiest of jobs and access could be better but I wouldn't condemn it.

To add to this are you sure the cup holder is the only access? I'm wondering how they installed it. I'd have thought that type of ancillary fitting was among the last to go in.

 

[Karnic]

Yes deck drains and bilge hose

From what I can see double clipping those would have an adverse effect of pulling the hose off. Not the tidiest of jobs and access could be better but I wouldn't condemn it.

In order to gain access do you recommend make the drink holder hole wider and therefore use a larger cup holder in order to at least get a reach . Thats what i said that access should be better. bit disappointed.

 

[RobWales]

Read what I wrote about a flexi extended driver!
DO NOT GO HACKING your pride n joy.

 

[sarabande]

most certainly they should have two clips on then, with the screw/nuts facing opposite ways so that the hose is not under too much 'twist' .

Prudence would also suggest that next to each fitting, there should be a wooden tapered plug secured, just in case. And I'd also consider the use of backing plates to spread the load around the fitting. Easy enough to make up from some ply or scrap ali .

The clip on the left fitting in Pic 2 seems to be set at an angle.


When you have finished fettling, take dated pictures and write records, so that you have a get out of jail free card if there's an insurance issue. About four years ago, a forumite lost a boat on the Thames when a fitting failed, and there was a long sad insurance argument.

 

[Karnic]

waiting for a reply from the factory. Otherwise you have to remove all deck with console to get a decent access which is unimmaginable.

 

[Karnic]

yes good idea will check about it, but im trying to determine good access in order to install another clip if recommended or else chang clip if need arises.

 

[RobWales]

waiting for a reply from the factory. Otherwise you have to remove all deck with console to get a decent access which is unimmaginable.

Common problem on smaller craft who's deck has been bonded in after various fittings fixed in hull below, I'm an expert contortionist having owned a few with this set up, get the right tool and you'll manage.

 

[Karnic]

Agree. But what should i do in order to improve the situation and arrange what i taught would never find in a new boat. Feeling frustrated when you pay good money and discover work that should have been done lots better. Not happy that there is no point from where to reach just to at least check the tightness of the clip.

 

[Karnic]

can you send me a picture of the tool you are mentioning please?