Headlining question

[Jr7710]

Hi, I'm replacing the headlining on my Seawych 19. I've decided I'm not going to make ceiling boards as the surface is very good.

My question is regarding corner joins. I was thinking to tidy up wall corners and where it meets ceiling to use a bead of sika or bathroom sealant. I'm thinking as long as it bonds, and doesn't contain anything that will eat away the material it will look ok.

What do you think.

James

 

[woozy-UK]

just want to say on my seawych (or the one i used to have) last year. i used Veltrim instead of headline. it gave a loveley fresh look and feel inside.

was a b*tch to remove the glue and old foam though. used abrasive discs for that.

 

[VicS]

Hi, I'm replacing the headlining on my Seawych 19. I've decided I'm not going to make ceiling boards as the surface is very good.

My question is regarding corner joins. I was thinking to tidy up wall corners and where it meets ceiling to use a bead of sika or bathroom sealant. I'm thinking as long as it bonds, and doesn't contain anything that will eat away the material it will look ok.

What do you think.

James

I think it will look like a ghastly bodge.

Ply boards is the way to go.
End result looks good. Can use a water based pva adhesive to avoid highly toxic fumes. Can cover the boards working on a clean floor, avoiding working upside down with large pieces of lining material and contact adhesive.

You could try the method described in the building manual although I was not very pleased with the result the first time I lined mine.


Consider creating a glued hem on the edge of the lining which will lap onto the sides a little if you are determined not to use boards.

 

[Fantasie 19]

If you have to replace the lining then I think I agree with VicS - boards are the way to go - it also means you have somewhere to lead electrics out of sight....

If it was me, and the surface is as good as you say, I'd just paint it rather than re-line - far easier to maintain and keep clean...

 

[chewi]

If you have to replace the lining then I think I agree with VicS - boards are the way to go - it also means you have somewhere to lead electrics out of sight....
...

+1.
Change your mind. make boards, at least for the ceiling, and let them overlap the wall covering
sikaflex would be a dogs breakfast.

 

[VicS]

A couple of pictures to add to my earlier post


More detailed advice specific to the Sea Wych should be available via the message board on the Owners Association website.

 

[Jr7710]

Thanks vic, ok I'm being persuaded to your way of thinking and am now gonna go register with OA.
Hopefully someone may have dimensions of a template

I must say yours looks cracking!!!

 

[Jr7710]

I'm also hoping someone has dimensions of the foam interior cushions. Mine are a but too far out if shape to use!

 

[VicS]

Thanks vic, ok I'm being persuaded to your way of thinking and am now gonna go register with OA.
Hopefully someone may have dimensions of a template

I must say yours looks cracking!!!

I'm also hoping someone has dimensions of the foam interior cushions. Mine are a but too far out if shape to use!

I tried to make templates but in the end measured cut roughly but oversize and kept adjusting until it all fitted. The main bulkheads probably vary a bit so templates for one boat probably wont be exactly right for another.

Dont expect things to be symmetrical or square. Important to get the join down the middle straight. Mine is a wee bit out

Cushions are easy to measure for but the foam must be a bit oversize so that the covers fit tightly. If you can get the foam into the cover without a fight you've made it too loose! I don't think I have any templates or patterns.

If you use a patterned material its nice to make it all match up around the boat.. I also found it useful to cut the main cabin cushions into two, instead of being full length, to make access to the under berth lockers easier.

use a firm bu not very firm grade of foam

 

[Jr7710]

Thanks vic, final question, how easy was it cutting around windows? I don't really want to take window trim off If I can help it. James

 

[VicS]

Thanks vic, final question, how easy was it cutting around windows? I don't really want to take window trim off If I can help it. James

Final answer.
I did the lining ( foam backed vinyl) before fitting the windows and when I relined I also fitted new windows as the originals had crazed.

My windows are fitted in rubbers and the lining ( minus the foam) laps around the edge of the window opening.

Having the windows out while lining helps with the ventilation if using a solvent based adhesive.

Correct organic vapours mask as well as good ventilation essential if using a solvent based adhesive.

While lining stripped out is a good time to re-bed deck fittings etc as well as renewing windows.

BTW sometimes takes a while for OA membership to come through as the membership secretary is often away, so dont panic if response is not immediate.

 

[jpay]

A couple of pictures to add to my earlier post


More detailed advice specific to the Sea Wych should be available via the message board on the Owners Association website.

These look great, what are they? Plywood with a material covering? Any foam inbetween?

How do they attach to the original ceiling?


Thanks

 

[VicS]

These look great, what are they? Plywood with a material covering? Any foam inbetween?

How do they attach to the original ceiling?


Thanks

Thin ply covered with foam backed vinyl, stuck with a water based, water resistant PVA wood glue. Fastened up with a combination of screws, with matching vinyl covered caps, screwed into wooden pads bonded to the roof and velcro.
The roof itself is a foam sandwich and I opted not to put screws into the inner skin

Thicker boards probably would not need the Velcro