Headline - AWB Manufacturers take out contract on Twister_Ken

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Just for a change (sorry Kim) I bought a copy of YM.
Cor blimey, it's lucky the keel didn't fall off the bav before he wrote the "What is wrong with the Average White Boat" article.

Modern Yogourt Pot, bodies without souls, drinking coffee from a mug bought from Habitat. oooooh..

Head down,,

Ian
 
Ken's had the entire twister equipped in saltglaze earthenware. His only emaining domestic rproblem is how to stop the coal for his aga staining his teak deck.
 
"how to stop the coal for his aga staining the teak decks"......

Thats easily addressed... he's got an oil blacked cast steel coal bunker by the mast......held in place with hand rivetted copper fixings..... you know, next to the 'tribute to Neptune' hand carved wooden plaque.... that he fitted in a traditional naming ceremony many moons ago....
 
On a serious point I'd imagine the majority of readers will possess awb s mainly co they are good value and are safer, sail better. I'm surprised at IPC employing someone to slag off the majority of their readership ...
 
By 'safer' you mean those that still have their keels on/haven't sunk with broken rudder stock?

Looking around your typical harbour there are plenty of average white boats, but there are also an awful lot of boats that aren't, perhaps even a majority, despite the cheapness of AWB's. Do you reckon the latter don't (or shouldn't) read YM? Or do you think that YM should suppress honest opinions if they think a proportion of their readership might disagree?
 
This article actually pissed me off quite a bit.

IMO YM has lost the plot over the past few issues the AWB article was only the latest in a series of badly judged editorial decisions. I thought the average yachtsman article was drivel enough but AWB bashing?!

So not only does YM want to put us into the polar neck wearing, fifty something category they want to insult those of us that have an "AWB" by saying what most of us have scrimped, saved and look forward to sailing is crap?

WTF are you thinking YM?!

I don't care if the article was meant in good old light hearted jest, as YM will no doubt claim. If the YM editor wants to bash AWB's save it for some other mag or even a forum.

I don't see why I should spend money on a mag that slags off the very thing I enjoy and that I paid to read about namely... my AWB!!

If the current editorial team are trying to take the piss out of their readership then carry on guys and watch the sales drop.

At the moment PBO and Sailing Today are offering far superior content than the current drivel being pimped out of YM towers.

Sod it, I think a boycott of YM for a month or two is needed IMO.

- Rant over -

There got it out at last... thanks Jimi.
 
erm

I think you are taking it far too seriously

One mans opinion. Are you saying that you are so insecure about your boat that one mans opinion is enough to make you cry into your pint.

For comparison, try sailing a catamaran and then you will know what it is like to be picked on en mass, do I care, not a jot, I like it and that is surely all that matters.

I invite Ken to slag of cats, I like his writing style, it makes me laugh out loud.

Please, just a little bit, lighten up eh?
 
Maybe I am taking it a bit too seriously however, it get's right on my nerves when I hear the old "It's a trad boat, brass bits, held together with tar, fluff and no plastic, it's the only way to sail" brigade bang on.

If it's on forums, no problem bang away, it's free and I can ignore it, I just don't like paying for it.

If I wanted AWB bashing then I'd buy classic boat. I thought YM was supposed to encompass all aspects of yachting and offer a balanced view, obviously not.


Bah!
 
Would you prefer a feeling of indifference after reading the magazine.

'Oh yes I quite agree with everything they say'

That would make it pretty boring don't you think?

I think it was Des Sleightholme who said a good copy should never leave the reader indifferent.
 
Yes .. BUT .. in the mag at the moment its PC to slag off AWB's and praise MAB's. That is'nt balance its a misplaced sense of nostagia, bit like me looking at a TR5 and saying "Corr what a car" but the simple fact is a Peugot 206 is faster, more roadworthy and more comfortable. A lot of the readers of YM will be would be boat owners and I fear they are getting a wrong idea of merits and demits by the rosy tinted specs of an older genereation lost in the distant memory of a brief fumble in some ancient smelly sail locker.
 
As I read it Ken's point is that he'd rather drive the TR5 than the Peugot, if that is a fair comparison, I don't think it is. There are a few older boats that gave my Jeanneau a good run for her money!

Older heavier boats aren't always mouldy old boats but most newer ones built to a budget do behave as described in the article.

Anyone else who has had/sailed both will probably agree.

Don't get me wrong, I loved my Jeanneau, a fantastic boat but I know which is more comfortable for an (becoming) old git..

Ian
 
I was reading the article about the Sunfast 36. Great boats, had a lot of fun with one during a blustery week and thoroughly enjoyed it. What JJ didn't mention is that you can't leave the helm alone for a second, and she's just dying to broach if you're not quick enough dumping the main in a gust. Exhilarating, but definitely a boat for a younger lad than me!
 
OK Ford Anglia v. Peugot 206

Anyway I bet the Jeanneau would have stuffed the HR in speed?

Far as I'm concerned there is pros and cons but all we hear about modern production boats is the cons ... its absolute bo||ocks .. my Bennie is well built, safe, fast and comfortable and I often pass older heavier boats with a longer waterline than mine. It rarely slams and is extremely manouvreable in tight spaces and does everying I want from it. If I was sailing round the world I might go for something else but I'm not and wo'nt cos I'm a very happy AWB owner.
 
The HR is faster above a force 5. In fact faster in a force 3 on the beam than a certain Oceanis 36cc

Everything else you say makes sense, as I said, I loved my Jenny, sailed well, but it did slam, it also looked like a sunsail boat.

I guess Sunsail and all the other schools/charter companies did their homework before they chose the models suitable for purpose.

Ian
 
Ah now well you see, IMHO for too long YM and other so called sailing mags has been pandering to their advertisers no doubt in fear of a fall in advertising revenue. It is about time someone stood up and said "go on buy your floating caravan and park it in the floating caravan park next to the showerblock pub and laundry. But for christ's sake please dont take the damn things out of the caravan park if the wind is blowing or is likely to blow befor you reach the safty of the next caravan park". I have just paid rather a lot of money for a fifteen year old Humbug Rasberry for the same money I could have had a brand spanking significantly larger AWB with all mod cons. Trouble is I am a sailor not a yachtie and if it dont look right it aint right and if I'm going to get caught in a blow, I want a boat that behaves in sympathy with the sea and was built with skill and love by craftsmen who know that the sea is not allways a friendly place, the ability to get the crew home safely and in relative comfort whatever the conditions is paramount. Your AWB can't do that as it was designed from the inside out.

and breathe
 
er I deliberated for ages - a new bav 40 something, even had a test sail, a Jeanneau 43 or a 1989 HR42..
Guess which one for the same money, especially with the kit it came with!

Ian
 
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