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Are there any potential difficulties or obstacles facing a hard of hearing sailor who aspires to obtaining a yachtsmaster certificate ? I am not enquiring about someone who is totally deaf but one who needs to wear a hearing aid to get by. The only possible problem I can think of is when a radio communication, e.g. weather forecast, distress signal, etc., is difficult to understand due to poor quality sound or due to the problem in amplification of background noise. Generally communication with crew members can be okay by raising voices if necessary. Familiar voices are also usually easier to understand than unfamiliar voices transmitted over a radio.
 

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I have high frequency deafness(firing rifles without ear defenders).
The only problem I have is that many alarms on radar,GPS,echosounders,and most electronic alarm clocks are inaudible to me, this is easily overcome by riggging low frequency buzzers or lights to alarm circuits.
RNID and most of the mainstream manufacturers can help with the "nuts and bolts"of this.
Other than that no problems.
 

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Shouldn't have any major effect on qualification as yachtmaster, provided that you can use the VHF. I wonder if the RNID has ever fitted an induction loop to a VHF set?
 

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I think you'll have less problems with the yachtmaster, than you will with the attitude of some forumites. Go for it, talk to RYA first for advice, but don't see why you should have any real problems
 

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That is genuinely impressive, though without being too cheeky, do you mind me asking how you deal with the red/green issue at night? I appreciate that the sequences are critical, but in a complicated channel with other incidental shore lighting, it must be pretty difficult.

I was puzzled also by your comment

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Nor is bad breath. Also you don't need a crew.

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Are these issues related?

Oops, I think I've misread it.
 

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Overcoming colour blindness

I don't know how Ian does it (and I'm impressed with his array of ailments!) but I can tell you how I do it.

I'm not colour blind but being short sighted I can't tell the difference between reds and greens a long way off. All you need is green and red filters to look at the light. A red is invisible looking through a green (or is it red invisible in red, anyway I can do it when on passage!). There is now a commercially made product that is essentailly a pair of red and green fliters. If anyone is interested PM me and I'll send them the details.
 

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Re: Overcoming colour blindness

That's it. Red and green filters. There was a product called 'view buoy' that I used for years, but now have bought a 'Sea key', similar thing,,,,,,,,
It's suprizing how many men have red/green problems without knowing. 20% of adult males suffer to some degree.

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Re: Overcoming colour blindness

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I don't know how Ian does it (and I'm impressed with his array of ailments!) .

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Thank you, but I'm much sicker than that, (cough,twitch) I don't go on about it 'cos I don't want to be a burden (limp,twinge). /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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Unless the YM examiner was acting as crew, can't see how you can do a YM without crew?
Thought the YM exam is a test of your abilities as a skipper, which includes your ability to communicate effectively with your crew, not just your practical and theoretical knowlege.
 

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Unless the YM examiner was acting as crew, can't see how you can do a YM without crew?
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Yes, and if you ask the RYA that's what they will tell you.
BUT there are senior examiners out there who see thing differently. You just have to find one. I did, though it took a little time. No point in me being tested with a crew, I never take one. Or on an AWB from a school, I never sail them. If you fit the standard pattern then take the standard route. If not, then think outside the box.
It can be done,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Yes, and if you ask the RYA that's what they will tell you.
BUT there are senior examiners out there who see thing differently. You just have to find one. I did, though it took a little time. No point in me being tested with a crew, I never take one. Or on an AWB from a school, I never sail them. If you fit the standard pattern then take the standard route. If not, then think outside the box.
It can be done,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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That kind off makes the YM qualification a bit off a joke then, as it appears from your reply that you don't need to meet the required standards, just the right examiner.
 

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That kind off makes the YM qualification a bit off a joke then, as it appears from your reply that you don't need to meet the required standards, just the right examiner.

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A joke? No doubt there are some who would agree with you. Still the chap who examined me was the man who examined the examiners to see if they were fit to examine, as it might be, you.
He knew that I had been sailing since Nelson was a snotty and liked wooden gaff rigged boats as much as he did. I will not be trying for a commercial endorsement. I did my time as a charter skipper more than twenty years ago. I didn't care for it much even then. A nice chap young Tom,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I'll give you his e-mail addy if you like and you can take it up with him.

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Now you've just qualified your post by stating that you previously worked as a charter skipper, thus you obviously have the necessary experience which the examiner felt was not necessary examine you on.
That's slightly different to initial impression /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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