halyards

[kevin2]

Hi, I have a Bavaria 38 Ocean both main and genoa halyards are half wire and half rope, the rope needs replacing. I'm wondering whether to replace with the same or replace with just rope any clues
regards kevin.

 

[sailorman]

cheapest option is to shorten the existing rope tail ( if its long enough) & re-splice to the wire, its very easy to do. if not long enough buy new tail & splice to wire

 

[Finbar]

Just replaced my last rope wire halyard on a Sadler 32 with 10mm Dyneema, which seems to be the riggers standard choice today. Good value from www.ropecellar.com, and fast service.

 

[charles_reed]

I've replaced all my halyards, over time, with Dyneema/Spectra (both the same).
There's more stretch in that than in Vectran, but they're about 20% stronger. The alternative, Kevlar, has virtually disappeared - it has the strength of Dyneema and a lower stretch, but has other nasty habits such as sudden fatigue-failure and UV degrades.

My main halyard, now 11 years old, has no sign of wear and it's done about 38K sea-miles.

If you look at the load tables you'll see racing Dyneema/Spectra is similar in SWL capacity to stainless wire, but you'll need larger diameter for ease of handling, so you might as well go for the cheaper cruising version. Go for the hard-case outer if you have any jammers.

 

[Billjratt]

Just make sure the sheaves etc. will be happy with the larger diameter if you move away from 1/2wire. Better to splice a new tail as mentioned earlier.

 

[Leighb]

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Just make sure the sheaves etc. will be happy with the larger diameter if you move away from 1/2wire. Better to splice a new tail as mentioned earlier.

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I may be incorrect here, but I understood that wire rope needs a V shaped groove in sheaves, whereas rope should be rounded. It may perhaps be more important if changing the other way, but perhaps worth checking?

When I changed from wire to Dyneema for my One Design main halyard, I also changed the sheave, but the old brass one was knackered anyway.

 

[Airassmith]

I'm in the process of doing the same and have gone for Dyneema rope from which I am stripping the sheath for the equivalent of the wire portion. In fact that tonight's job for the cutter stay halyard!
Dave

 

[alec]

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I've replaced all my halyards, over time, with Dyneema/Spectra (both the same).
There's more stretch in that than in Vectran, but they're about 20% stronger. The alternative, Kevlar, has virtually disappeared - it has the strength of Dyneema and a lower stretch, but has other nasty habits such as sudden fatigue-failure and UV degrades.

My main halyard, now 11 years old, has no sign of wear and it's done about 38K sea-miles.

If you look at the load tables you'll see racing Dyneema/Spectra is similar in SWL capacity to stainless wire, but you'll need larger diameter for ease of handling, so you might as well go for the cheaper cruising version. Go for the hard-case outer if you have any jammers.

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I have just started to replace Marlowbraid with Dyneema.

The braided outer on the Dyneema seems a bit flimsy. Have I got the wrong sort for jammers and cruising ?

Thanks in advance for any guidance.

 

[aidancoughlan]

Can anyone comment on 'unbranded' Dyneema ropes - the prices on Ropecellar.com seem very significantly cheaper than others
£65 as opposed to £184 at jimmygreen for 26metres.

If it's dyneema, it it just as good ? or is the major part of the quality in the making of the rope from the material ?

If its an inferior brand, whats the downside .... wear and tear earlier , stretch, or something else ?

ta for any info....