Getting rated

[Twister_Ken]

Quite fancy doing a few local races this year, JOG or WSCRA stuff.

Currently Indigo is unrated and would need a certificate (IRC?).

Anyone any idea how to go about this - how onerous, how expensive, etc?

PS RORC website doesn't seem to link to detail on rating at the moment.

 

[claymore]

We used to have a measurement weekend at our club when a crane was hired and there was a flurry of clipboards - would the RYA be a starting place?

 

[bedouin]

Humperdinck is just going through this at the moment - a lot of his posts (here and elsewhere) relate to that. I am also getting Bedouin rated for JOG/RORC this year.

Details can be found on www.rorcrating.com. IRC is a self-measured rule and so is comparatively cheap (about £70). You will also need a recognised sail number if you don't already have one (£25 from RYA).

That bit is easy. The really expensive bit is getting the boat up to the safety standards required by the relevant Special Regs. That is not required for the rating, but will be required if you actually want to enter a race!

 

[Guest]

Just done the IRC - it\'s EASY

It's very very easy. First, visit http://www.seacracker.org/irc_rating.htm and you can see some of what it's about.

The measurement data from Sergeant Pepper's IRC rating application is listed in the table on that page. You should contact the RORC rating office for your own boat, as you cannot rely on the measurements from another. The rating is administered by Seahorse Rating Limited (telephone +44 (0)1590 677030 or email: info@rorcrating.com or simply visit their website on www.rorcrating.com

When you contact them, request a copy of the IRC Yearbook, which is a comprehensive guide about the rating, and includes detailed instructions for how to complete the self measurement. The cost for a rating certificate is £7.00/m LOA.

For my boat, the TOTAL cost was £70 and they returned my certificate within ten days. Not only that, you can download an Excel spreadsheet from wheir site to speed up the process (or they will email it to you).

Not only that, I called them with a couple of questions and found them extraordinarily helpful. Thoroughly recommended.

 

[paulineb]

Re: Getting ratted

We have a measurement weekend at Brighton - but it has nothing to do with the length of the boats

Pxx

 

[Guest]

Weighing

One of the most attractive aspects of the IRC system is that you require neither a professional measurer nor an official weight. The weight may be given in two ways:

1. The Empty Weight
This is the manufacturers designed weight which is best understood by imagining you tipped your boat upside down and shook it. An empty boat wouldn't rattle.

2. Sailing weight
Far more complex, but seems to require weighing every item on board (that's EVERY) and making sure you always sail with that gear.

As to the other point, they send you a lovely booklet for free with details about HOW to take the measurements (fairly easy but I made one mistake, apparently) and loads of plain Englis explanations.

 

[david_e]

Re: Getting ratted

Do please enlighten us with the measurements obtained (full details)

 

[Twister_Ken]

Re: Getting ratted

That'll be length overall, forward, mid and aft girths, bmax, and depth presumably.

 

[Jeremy_W]

I'm unfamiliar with WSCRA, but I guess it's your regional Cruiser Racing Association. You may find it has its own "in-house" rating system in the same way as North East Cruiser Racing Association or Liverpool Bay Sailing Association. This will be pretty rough and ready but will probably cost about a tenner, literally be calculated with a pocket calculator and one side of A4 and will get you racing against the "giving it a go" first-timers. You'll also find such rules err on the side of generosity towards longer-keeled traditional designs.

If you're happy with that scene great! If not, bite the bullet and pay up for IRC.

Regards,
Jeremy

 

[vyv_cox]

Re: Getting ratted

Is this thread something to do with the parallel universe theory that was on TV last night?

 

[Guest]

My data: [url]http://www.seacracker.org/irc_rating.htm[/url]

There you go -- the full IRC measurement data for "Sergeant Pepper".

 

[Viking]

Re: Getting ratted

Its Friday, so I think I'll go out and get 'rated' tonight!

 

[Twister_Ken]

Re: My data: [url]http://www.seacracker.org/irc_rating.htm[/url]

Thanks Humperdink

 

[Guest]

I downloaded the Excel Spreadsheet from the RORC rating office website on Friday morning. A couple of hours onboard with a tape measure, together with the technical builders specification details, and I had all the data necessary for my Hallberg-Rassy 31. That included measurement of my largest headsail (No 1 Genoa) and spinnaker. Although it took a little time to establish what some of the measurements refer to (the instructions, definitions and diagrams are also on the website), I was able to forward the spreadsheet shortly after lunch.

Hopfully, the next thing I hear from RORC will be my rating.

Nick F

 

[Guest]

Takes about 7 - 10 days. (nm)

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