jimi
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When close winded on one and the main is backwinding is it best to put a reef in the main?
Gennaker or cruising chute trimming
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Eightball
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pull it down youll go just nicely useualy thats what i do anyway right or wrong. it works for me. dont realy know might not suit you happy sailing dave
Swagman
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Maybe, but hard for anyone to really advise without knowing situation / wind angles / pressure / boat / rig etc.
Suspect David 123 is giving best advice above.
I am as guilty as most others in keeping up a spinnaker when sailing really shy - but apart from really light airs when sometimes it gives higher speed - more usually it is self defeating.
One could normally go faster close reaching under white sails in any real pressure as oppsed to pulling down mainsail and retaining the gennaker / spinnaker - but all boats vary so try both.
It is the only real way to find out what ius best for you.
Enjoy.
JOHN
Suspect David 123 is giving best advice above.
I am as guilty as most others in keeping up a spinnaker when sailing really shy - but apart from really light airs when sometimes it gives higher speed - more usually it is self defeating.
One could normally go faster close reaching under white sails in any real pressure as oppsed to pulling down mainsail and retaining the gennaker / spinnaker - but all boats vary so try both.
It is the only real way to find out what ius best for you.
Enjoy.
JOHN
Eightball
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yes i think you are right its a matter of what suits you boat weather sea conditions you could go on an on .
DeeGee
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When close winded on one and the main is backwinding is it best to put a reef in the main?
[/ QUOTE ]Definitely not a genniker or c/c expert, but the trick with spinnakers is to allow a little of the halyard to be shy of the sheave at the top. This little lead, say a foot or so, is used as a 'pointer' as to where the force of the spi is directed. If it is fairly well forward of abeam, keep it up if you can, if decidedly abeam, then get it down. The beauty of this is that you tune-in to the use of the direction indicator by experience.
When close winded on one and the main is backwinding is it best to put a reef in the main?
[/ QUOTE ]Definitely not a genniker or c/c expert, but the trick with spinnakers is to allow a little of the halyard to be shy of the sheave at the top. This little lead, say a foot or so, is used as a 'pointer' as to where the force of the spi is directed. If it is fairly well forward of abeam, keep it up if you can, if decidedly abeam, then get it down. The beauty of this is that you tune-in to the use of the direction indicator by experience.
qsiv
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It depends why the main is backwinding.
If it is that the kite is strapped too tight, and the main sheeted on, then pulling dow a reef wont make much difference - you simply need to flatten the entry of the main, full cunningham, ease checks, and more backstay (not that those are really relevant in a crusing environment). Also make sure that the spinnaker sheet is absolutely as far aft as possible to allow the leech to twist open - obviously you will have the spi halyard tension pretty much at maximum.
If the reason is that you are mite pressed, and are easing the main, then less kicker might help, or a reef, or perhaps does the kite and go to white sails. In this case too, you will want the spinnaker leech as open as possible.
If it is that the kite is strapped too tight, and the main sheeted on, then pulling dow a reef wont make much difference - you simply need to flatten the entry of the main, full cunningham, ease checks, and more backstay (not that those are really relevant in a crusing environment). Also make sure that the spinnaker sheet is absolutely as far aft as possible to allow the leech to twist open - obviously you will have the spi halyard tension pretty much at maximum.
If the reason is that you are mite pressed, and are easing the main, then less kicker might help, or a reef, or perhaps does the kite and go to white sails. In this case too, you will want the spinnaker leech as open as possible.
tross
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If you are this shy, you should lower the pole to move the centre of effort forward. This will open up the leach and allow the air to exhaust correctly. With a chute. increase the luff downhaul.
jimi
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qsiv, good to see you posting again, how's things?
sailorman
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keep the chute luff tight, lead the chute down-haul aft so it can easyly altered to suit conditions.
my chute is max size with "full" head panels giving a very adaptable sail & not just a little flat triangle.
reef the main in higher wind speeds when "on the wind" say 75 > 80 deg
qsiv
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qsiv, good to see you posting again, how's things?
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Noit too bad - still have too many boats - the new one is certainly quick - 20 knots under reefed main only was exciting, as was 19 knots in just 22-25 this summer. The real joy is the ability to sail upwind at 7 or 8 knots in 6 or 7 knots true breeze. We see other boats training their bins on us looking for the engine.....
Havent been bold enough to actually try sleeping aboard - that seems rather like hard work, so we sleep ashore if we race away from home.
Other than that, SWMBO still keeps threatining/trying to top herself - as a result she keeps being detained by the men in white coats, which she says is unfair.
Here she is - not really a cruising chute, and for us this is as close to a dead run as we ever get - wind is NEVER aft of the beam.
Here we are - more relevant - strapped really tight (Code 0), main flogging, jib hoisted, and spi tack eased just getting ready to drop the A-sail, as we couldnt lay the finish. Windspeed here was about 12 knots, boatspeed about 11 from memory.
Sorryt it's largeis ...
qsiv, good to see you posting again, how's things?
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Noit too bad - still have too many boats - the new one is certainly quick - 20 knots under reefed main only was exciting, as was 19 knots in just 22-25 this summer. The real joy is the ability to sail upwind at 7 or 8 knots in 6 or 7 knots true breeze. We see other boats training their bins on us looking for the engine.....
Havent been bold enough to actually try sleeping aboard - that seems rather like hard work, so we sleep ashore if we race away from home.
Other than that, SWMBO still keeps threatining/trying to top herself - as a result she keeps being detained by the men in white coats, which she says is unfair.
Here she is - not really a cruising chute, and for us this is as close to a dead run as we ever get - wind is NEVER aft of the beam.
Here we are - more relevant - strapped really tight (Code 0), main flogging, jib hoisted, and spi tack eased just getting ready to drop the A-sail, as we couldnt lay the finish. Windspeed here was about 12 knots, boatspeed about 11 from memory.
Sorryt it's largeis ...
