Gas locker?

burgundyben

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I have a single burner Origo meths stove which is crap.

I intend to replace it with a combined sink and 2 ring gas burner by SMEV. See:-

http://www.grassroutesleisure.co.uk/acatalog/Combinations_Units.html

It would be much easier for me to place the gas bottle in a locker under the galley in the cabin, I would make a nice wooden stowage so its properly secured.

Now I hear sharp intakes of breath, "tut tut must have gas locker draining overboard, tut tut"

I'm sure I have seen a gimballed stove in a yacht cabin with a camping gaz 901 cylinder screwed into the unit itself? if this is acceptable then what I am intending to do should be acceptable also?
 

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BANG!

I've seen things that would make your hair stand on end.
What's acceptable is what doesn't explode, or is REALLY unlikely to do so. Petrol is something to avoid on a boat generally. I have seen the results of two bangs. Gas is useful for cooking and you must have gas pipes to the stove, but a gas bottle must not drain into the bottom of the boat! The explosion potential of the tank itself is alot higher when it is near the heat. Avoid!
 

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hi
Like all things these days its probably down to your insurer as to what is acceptable to them, my experience at the moment is bottled gas work not checked out and certified by a marine registered corgi fitter is not acceptable. I have just found a fitter who will replace my old hoses for a moderate price, but the certificate that goes with it makes it double, still what price for saftey at sea
KW
 

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Hi
i have a 4 burner SMEV
7 yrs old & as good as new, wasnt that cheap but its only money.

on my Co 32 the gas bottle wasnt in a locker, just in a holder through the bulkhd.
to turn the gas on, put arm through b/hd twist valve clockwise on, finished cooking, arm through b/hd twist valve anti-clockwise off.
simple init
new owner had to have a gas locker constructed which required a chain-saw through the cockpit benches ( well almost).
the system had worked for more than 20 yrs

i guess that in this day & age you should check with insurance co but 2 guess what they will req.
its just not worth the risk of ending-up un-insured for a total loss.
the whole country is run by lawyers 4 lawyers /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
 

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No longer acceptable...

The old gimballed cookers with a gas bottle hanging underneath are no longer politically correct. You can, I believe, have a gas bottle in a locker inside the cabin, but the locker has to be top-opening, and must have a drain from the lowest point to the outside of the hull (naturally above the waterline).
 

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I would not bother to even consider inside the boat. In the USA and Canada there is a law which requires bottled gas (propare and butane) to be kept ouside the unit, be it caravan, boat or RV.
As a result there are virtually no fire or explosion problems. You see on boats, the gas container in stainless cage or locker hung from the pushpit, so that the regulator is in free air, and with a second shutoff valve close by. As long as this is off, and leaks vent stright to air, and there is no build up of gas within the boat. Both propane and butane are heavier than air- natural gas (methane) is actually lighter.
On my boat we have exactly that arrangement, and the lack of gas container and locker means we can store at least 6 bottles of wine, or hundreds of tinnies
 

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Like roast beef? Fried egg? Crispy bacon? Toast?
A microwave is useful but does not replace a gas stove and oven in my boat thank you!
 

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Your gas bottle should be outside of the living quarters and the locker should be drained from the bottom over the side. I would advise fitting a bubble tester to test for leaks and an isolating valve that can be accessed from inside the boat mounted on the bulkhead where the pipe enters the cabin. Make a practice of turning off at the bulkhead when not using gas and at the bottle itself when leaving the boat.
 

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dow anyone know of anywhere that sells containers for gas bottles? I have mine in the cockpit locker but there is no sealed lid?
 

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I have a parafin stove it is a bit of a pain so every now and then a thought creeps into my head to change to gas. Then I read threads like this and realise why I wont.
 
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