Gas Cookers

[Greg2]

We are looking to replace the original gas cooker on our Broom Ocean 37, which is a largish affair - almost full size in fact (50cm wide). Seems we would pay circa £500 to 600 /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif for something from a Swindlery or Caravan shop but an LPG cooker from Comet would only set us back about half that /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif.

Apart from weight (I'm guessing the boat/caravan ones are perhaps lighter) I can't think of anything special about a 'marine' cooker of this type - lpg is lpg and to my knowledge there isn't anything special in thier construction.

Is there a reason I can't go for the Comet jobbie?

 

[Keith]

the only drawback i can see is it may rust out a bit quicker, apart from that make sure it don't have pilot lights for the burners, i think they all have flame failure fitted now but not sure, piezo ignition may be a problem unless you can connect it to ship system..........keith

 

[JKay]

I think you'll probaly find that most domestic systems don't have a flame failure device fitted although you are supplied with different jets for running on LPG.

let us know how you get on as we could do with modernise our grill

 

[steverow]

Bloke behind me on the pontoon bought one of these when refitting, and had the devil of a job finding the fittings to convert from 12mm as supplied (which appears to be German) to his 10mm copper lpg pipe.
Easy to go up to to UK 15mm but not down.
Becomes even harder if your pipe is 8mm or imperial.
The last thing you want in a gas system is a concoction of adapters.
I would check the fittings before purchase.

Steve.

 

[Keith]

I would have thought barbed connections and rubber gas pipe was the way to go, i had copper on my boat and it got eaten by the salt and became insanely brittle, binned it and went to rubber gas pipe with barbed fittings (metric one end, imperial the other) not had a problem since............keith

 

[trouville]

On old coverted fishing boats ive seen many use old dometic cookers, They universaly have a fitting thats stepped allowing you to choose the size of rubber pipe you want to use. Non seem to have rusted, and all have the bottle within reach and is turned off when not in use.
The only problem i can see is the room needed, i doubt it would fit on even a large sail boat due to the hull shape, but on a MOBO with a hut on deck should work:

 

[Alastairdent]

Rubber can't be used on the interior if you need a BSS, it has to be copper.

 

[pvb]

Surely you can use rubber?

Most appliances are connected with a rubber flexible hose, aren't they? This is what trouville was suggesting. Is this outlawed by the BSS?

 

[Matrosen]

How does copper allow for the gimble?

 

[gianenrico]

The only regulatory problem I see with rubber is that the piece of pipe You are connecting has a date stamped along it, giving a definite life span (e.g.: you buy it tomorrow and the expiry date marked will be 2009 - as it was manufactured last year - or 2010 - as it was manufactured yhis year). That pipe usually cost quite a lot but is absolutly guaranteed to last in a marine environment without troublr; I also appreciate being forced to a throuhout examiantion of the whole pipe in order to chance the pipe.....You never know what You might discover in some secluded part of your boat.

 

[Greg2]

Some useful thoughts here - thanks

 

[LittleShip]

I have fitted a Canon cooker to the boat (MoBo) and it works fine, less than half the price of the marine version, however there are a couple of drawbacks to this :-

1. The cooker is not design to be "strapped" in and or gimbaled so some ingenuity was needed to fix it.
2. The cooker guarantee is invalid or so they told me.

Mine has battery ignition on all the burners but no flame failure device

The equivalent cooker and in my opinion not as good was £1200 mine was less than £500 no contest I’ll throw it away in a few years and get another one.
As for pipework all the fittings including braded gas supply pipe can be obtained from a canal boating chandlers, they are use to fitting out boats with standard sized cookers.
PM if you need any further help.

Good luck !!

 

[BSSOffice]

Re: Surely you can use rubber?

For accurate info on BSS requirements, especially April onwards, go to www.boatsafetyscheme.com. Look up part 7 - gas systems and part 8 - appliances. Also check out extra references in the BSS modernisation key summary document .pdf file.
Please also feel free to contact the BSS Office directly on bss.enquiries@boatsafetyscheme.com
Regards

 

[LittleShip]

Re: Surely you can use rubber?

Oh! Big brother, your link wont work? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[pvb]

Why didn\'t you just answer the question?

Wouldn't it have been easier just to answer the question about using rubber flexible hose? The link to your website doesn't work. When I finally found your website, I couldn't find a reference to the "BSS modernisation key summary document .pdf file", although I did get to a page which invited me to "influence proposals to modernise BSS requirements", but this page also said that consultation ends on 30 September 2004.

I'm afraid this confirms the view which many people have long held about the BSS.