gas cooker on board to be changed on our Hunter 23'

[iainmillett]

gas cooker on board to be changed on our Hunter 23\'

We have a small 2 ring cooker using 2 small canisters which screw into the base of each ring. Sadly the whole thing needs replacing!

I have found a camping type 2 ring burner made by Campingaz called a Lagon which needs a regulator and small gas bottle and connecting pipe. The regulator can be truned off to isolate the canister.

Is this safe to use on-board? Any views

 

[Talbot]

Re: gas cooker on board to be changed on our Hunter 23\'

safer than what you had!

Still not safe, unless the gas bottle is kept somewhere where it can drain overboard - have a look at the installation advice on the calaor marine site.

 

[graham]

Re: gas cooker on board to be changed on our Hunter 23\'

It would be very safe provided you religiously turn off the gas at the bottle after every use .

Leave it on and someone bumps one of the knobs without noticing or a tiny leak lets gas escape into the bilge then it becomes lethal.

Also a substandard gas installation could be a problem on an insurance survey at a later date.

For safety reasons and for convenience of installation I am a fan of Origo meths stoves.

Mine is gimballed .If you dont need or want gimballs they can be screwed down to a flat work surface.

 

[davidwf]

Re: gas cooker on board to be changed on our Hunter 23\'

Looking at the Lagoon on the internet it does not seem to have a flame failure device, if so I'd be very wary of it. I suspect it may actually be illegal to fit one without the flame failure device.

I have a little stainless steel single ring device which uses aerosol size gas caanisters, nice and cheap to buy but could get expensive to run although if you buy the gas from Argos its not too bad. Even that has a flame failure device. You can get the stove for under £20.

 

[Eufo126]

Re: gas cooker on board to be changed on our Hunter 23\'

We have an E Boat (22ft) and removed the gas cooker after suveyer suggested it needed a locker drained overboard. We now use a camping gas cooker on the cockpit floor, most of the time there is no problem with it blowing out. At Anchor it's nice to sit inside and cook outside with no fumes in the boat. A flask of hot water when on the move is always an option.

 

[cliff]

Re: gas cooker on board to be changed on our Hunter 23\'

[ QUOTE ]
Looking at the Lagoon on the internet it does not seem to have a flame failure device, if so I'd be very wary of it. I suspect it may actually be illegal to fit one without the flame failure device.

[/ QUOTE ]Just curious but where do you get the "illegal" bit from? It may not comply with some code of practice or another, but "illegal", I hardly think so. One may invalidate ones insurance if the boat explodes and it is found to be due to the cooker but that does not make fitting one "illegal", just, dare one say, "shortsighted"
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[Cloven]

Re: gas cooker on board to be changed on our Hunter 23\'

I'd agree with Graham and go for the Origo meths stove. We fitted one on a Hunter Medina to replace an old gas stove and it worked great.

By the way, if you are ever in France you can buy denatured alchohol easily from hardware/camping shops etc which is great for the Origo stoves. It is basically the same as meths (although it might be ethanol rather than methanol) but without the colour (and the smell). Also very cheap.

 

[cliff]

Re: gas cooker on board to be changed on our Hunter 23\'

Is there a version of the Origo meths stove with a grill and oven?

It is a bit difficult to do the sunday roast without an oven. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
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[davidwf]

Re: gas cooker on board to be changed on our Hunter 23\'

OK illegal bad choice of word; perhaps ok without FFD for use at sea.

But will be aginst some code of practice; it certainly is cause for failing the inland waterways Small Boat Saftey inspection if not fitted with FFD and installed after 2000.

 

[iainmillett]

Re: gas cooker on board to be changed on our Hunter 23\'

Have now installed the Origo 2 ring cooker in our boat and after a full week of use aboard - I must say how pleased we are. No smells and it cooks brillliantly. Once fueled up, we did not have to top up all week - and used pretty regularly.

I would expect problems - if we had rain and the hatches shut - probably couldn't use it - otherwise very pleased! Whose got rain this summer?

 

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How many times do people confuse two issues ............

Inland Waterways Requirements ........... Corgi and all that.

Coastal - Seagoing ............. where all you are required to do is fit in reasonable manner and satisfy Insurance Co. (Hoping that you picked an Insurance Co. that hasn't listened to some smart-a*** surveyor .......who happens to think that Inland Waterways regs should be brought to "sea" /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif )