garmin 4010 plotter gps problem

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elioti

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hi have a new garmin 4010 with radar, connected it up for the first time today using the 17x gps aerial. All boots up but there is no gps signal? the aerial plugs into the back of the display. On my wiring diagram its connected to nmea 2000 network, but the connector on the end of the wire from the gps wont fit the nmea connectors, only fits into the display unit. am confused as to why no signal, any help appreciated, cheers!
 
The Gps aerial doesn't plug into the display.
You should have been supplied a MNEA 2000 bus and terminators.(It all connects together to form a plastic sausage with the cable coming out at right angles)
Check the packing list and follow the instructions.
 
Hi thanks for the reply.i have connected up the nmea 2000 connectors. the cable that is supplied ( a long one ) fits to the gps aerial one end, and the other end has a flat socket on it ( bit like on a phone at home ) and is the same as the end of the radar lead. The only place it will go is into the display unit? It wont fit to the nmea 2000 connectors that are round? Maybe they gave me the wrong lead, but guess is unlikely.
 
If its a NMEA 2000 network you must have terminator at each end of the backbone cable. The power, plotter and gps aerial are then teed into the backbone.

If you plug something else into the end of the backbone it will not work .

The flat socket like a phone is not NMEA 2000. It is Gamin network which is different. The radar is plugged straight into the back of the plotter with that.
 
Is the long cable Very long? It sounds like a radar cable to me.
Page 11 of the manual on CD shows what the 2000 setup looks like but you've already done that.
The only ethernet cable I got was the radar signal cable.
It will probably need a call/visit to your dealer.
The CD says that all Garmin NMEA200 devices are supplied with a drop cable,"T"piece and terminators, is there another box somewhere?
 
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hi thanks for the help. i have connected the t pieces and the ends, male and female. have the radar connected and works fine. there are 3 network ports at the back of the dispay unit, the radar goes into one and plugged the lead from the gps to the other. as said there are 3 that are not numbered or named, all the same, so plugged the radar in no particular one. Maybe they sent me two radar cables by mistake?
will have to call them
 
in the manual there is a picture of the gps aerial going straight to the display? there is also a picture of the aerial connected to the nmea t pieces, but as said has the square flat end on? confusing!
 
There are multiple garmin network connectors on the back of the 4010 display, these are used to connect the radar and other plotters together (using rectangular RJ45 style connectors) these are not NMEA2000 connectors!

On the back of the plotter there is only one N2K socket. This is a round 5-pin socket. As already stated you need to build up a n2K network. To do this you need a minimum of a male end terminator, three T connectors and a female terminator. Connect 12vdc using the yellow supplied cable to the first T connector, the 4010 display via a drop cable (5-pin round) to the next and then the GPS 17x unit to the final T piece again using a drop cable.
 
hi has have done this with the nema and is plugged into the back, i know what you mean, but the gps aerial wont connect into the nmea circuit, is a different connector.thanks
 
I am not sure if this helps, but I fitted a Garmin 5012 to my boat a little while ago which is basically a touch screen version of the 4010. We also had problems initially and these were because we had not connected a power supply to the MNEA 2000 network as it was not obvious from the instalation instructions that this was necessay.
 
elioti said:
hi has have done this with the nema and is plugged into the back, i know what you mean, but the gps aerial wont connect into the nmea circuit, is a different connector.thanks
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According to the Garmin website there are two different GPS 17X

One is GPS 17x NMEA 2000
The other is GPS 17x HVS which is for NMEA 0183.

Sounds to me like you have the second one.
 
hi, thanks do have power to the nmea 2000 and its plugged in, just that the gps aerial end connector is not round to fit into it, its flat, and only place it will fit is in the back of the display. confused as many say it doesnt go there! will have to call garmin on monday.appreciate all the replies so far!
 
elioti said:
yes i think there are two, still confused:(:confused:
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I think the best thing is you take some pictures to explain what the problem is. Assuming this is a new plotter and new aerial from Garmin it is highly unlikely that they have put the wrong stuff in the box.

All the ports on the back of the plotter are marked. Look under each port. There should be power, 3 Garmin network, one video, one N2K and one 0183.
 
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hi its a gps 17x thats what it says on it connector that goes into it is the same connector that fits the nmea 2000 network, the small black round connector serial number for the gps is 1bpo42857
 
May I put my 2p's worth in? I have a 4008, but the wiring is all the same on these.

What you should have in the way of a network is: There should be a short lead from the 17X, this will be 5 (or is it 6?) pins. Into that there will be a long cable that plugs in, the backbone cable. The other end of that cable should be exactly the same as the end coming out of the 17X. This long cable should now plug into one of the T pieces, you will need to plug two T pieces together, that will then plug into the back of the plotter, there is only one NMEA 2000 socket on the plotter, this too will have the same pin arrangement as the short cable on the 17X ALL the cable ends on the 2000 system, either male or female will look like this, without exception. With the long backbone cable plugged into one of the T pieces, the second T piece of the pair plugged into the plotter you are now left with two spare, either male or female outlets on the two T pieces, one of these takes a terminator, the other takes the yellow power lead.

The square sockets you mention are the ethernet sockets and will not work with the NMEA 2000, I cannot think how you can have a cable which plugs into the NMEA 2000 system, then into ethernet. Even if you had the 17X for 0183, it would not plug into the Ethernet. NMEA 0183 has a different socket all of its own.
 
thanks for the input, appreciated. will give them a call in the morning and let you all know the outcome! cheers
 
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