For all you interior experts out there…..need some help !

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Hi All,
Hoping for some advice as the inside of the boat has broken out into some big spots!

Basically many of the walls have a foam backed fabric/vinyl on them and at the beginning of the year one of the concave walls developed quite large bubbles (similar to the pics below - up to 30cm in size )……so I spent loads of time removing door frames / ceiling etc to allow me to re-stick the existing covering back on (using contact adhesive – tin of the stuff on the plywood and aerosol spray on the foam)…..anyway I thought that was the last of it but a couple of months ago a 2nd wall started to show the same issues (see 1st pic below)…….and sometimes it would look like in the pics …and sometimes the bubbles would not be visible as if they’d gone back down (perhaps due to heat/cold etc?)…..anyway I’d been planning to fix this new outbreak too and thought I’ve have a look around the boat to see if I could find anymore….and to my horror I’ve spotted these on about 50% of the walls (even a convex one – see pic 2)….

So it looks like I’ve got a massive job on my hands to fix all of this….but anyone know why it’s all happened almost all at once (within a year)??? We’ve had the boat (Azimut 50 - kept in the UK) since it was 9 months old and it’s now 7 years old.
Would also be very grateful for any advice on how to stick it back up, and whether I can re-use the old stuff (the foam has not started to crumble or anything)…… I want to re-visit the wall I re-glued initially as although the original covering is stuck back up, it’s not a perfect job as looks a little bumpy (not lumpy!) in places – perhaps where I was over generous with the aerosol and then pressed the material too hard back on, compressing the foam which once compressed remained glued together – consequentially making it look bumpy – so not sure if the technique is to very lightly apply the material or not??

Anyway - really grateful for any help and many thanks in advance!
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this one shows a smaller panel where I've removed a section that had also become a bubble.

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Just a thought! If it might be the case that the original adhesive has lost its stick in places either through heat or maybe moisture?.....Have you thought of running an iron over the bubbles?...(the sort for ironing clothes) maybe...just maybe the heat may re-invgorate the original adhesive??.....(steam in off position perhaps)...(increase heat to suit what the fabric can stand)....:-)
 
Don't know if this will work, but worth a try if you can do it

If there's enough material on the convex panel to wrap around the edges and leave at least a 25mm or so border on the back of the panel, (ideally a bit more, say 50mm) that's the place to glue it.
Just use some grab adhesive on the material around the border at the back, and no adhesive at all on the front, and tension the material across.
The grab adhesive at the back will be enough to hold the material in place, with no fear of bubbles or bumps on the front face.

That's how I did mine.
 
the other possibility, did you use a heat resistant spray adhesive? something like http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390352150223?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 , recently removed and re-stuck the headlining of a Westerly Merlin with it.... what a job that was..

Oh, the other thing I used which was really helpful was a clean mini paint roller to push/roll the material onto the glue http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Painting+Decorating/Rollers+Poles/Mini+Roller+Set+4+Emulsion+Gloss/d150/sd3171/p75556
 
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Just a thought! If it might be the case that the original adhesive has lost its stick in places either through heat or maybe moisture?.....Have you thought of running an iron over the bubbles?...(the sort for ironing clothes) maybe...just maybe the heat may re-invgorate the original adhesive??.....(steam in off position perhaps)...(increase heat to suit what the fabric can stand)....:-)

Hi Rob - love the idea and the lateral thinking :) Definitely worth a try on the small panel I have here at home......will let you know how I get on :)
 
Don't know if this will work, but worth a try if you can do it

If there's enough material on the convex panel to wrap around the edges and leave at least a 25mm or so border on the back of the panel, (ideally a bit more, say 50mm) that's the place to glue it.
Just use some grab adhesive on the material around the border at the back, and no adhesive at all on the front, and tension the material across.
The grab adhesive at the back will be enough to hold the material in place, with no fear of bubbles or bumps on the front face.

That's how I did mine.

Thanks - actually I was surprised to see big bubbles on the convex walls as it looked like it has been kinda stretched anyway.....the time consuming part is actually getting to the edges of the panels (as wood/ceilings etc need to be removed).
 
the other possibility, did you use a heat resistant spray adhesive? something like http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390352150223?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 , recently removed and re-stuck the headlining of a Westerly Merlin with it.... what a job that was..

Oh, the other thing I used which was really helpful was a clean mini paint roller to push/roll the material onto the glue http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Painting+Decorating/Rollers+Poles/Mini+Roller+Set+4+Emulsion+Gloss/d150/sd3171/p75556

cheers - looked at the eBay link and looks interesting......not sure what adhesive was originally used (looks like it's been troweled onto the walls - guess something similar to what I used)....the stuff I used was not heat resistant.....but that hasn't given up yet :D ....guess it's only been on there nearly a year though.........roller idea sounds good too.
 
Another bit of lateral thinking!......inject via syringe, appropriate glue into each bubble, then use a small hard roller....type used when rolling wetted grp matting to spread it around the void......again a lot easier than dismantling everything....if it works?
 
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I like Rob's "iron it" idea and would try that

If no good, then maybe inject glue into the bubble with hypodermic syringe. Use clear/white glue if you can find any contact adhesive that isn't brown, and be careful not to put too much in. This will be waaaaay easier than removing the panels and starting from scratch
 
I like Rob's "iron it" idea and would try that

If no good, then maybe inject glue into the bubble with hypodermic syringe. Use clear/white glue if you can find any contact adhesive that isn't brown, and be careful not to put too much in. This will be waaaaay easier than removing the panels and starting from scratch

AH, Rob just beat me to it while I was typing. He must be high on helium today :D
 
AH, Rob just beat me to it while I was typing. He must be high on helium today :D

Had considered the injecting route also - but these bubbles just grow and grow so would be chasing them 'round the wall! Can we swap - you have beige curvy walls with bubbles and I have straight ones with lovely sparkly silver/grey?? :)
 
I'd give Selwyn Cheadle @ Tockfield or MJ Marine Trimmers a call to see what they recommend. Both are decent firms that I am sure will give you advice before trying to flog you something.

Pete

Hi Pete - thanks for that and I'll give one of them a call shortly.....
 
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