Following on from my Fatality Stat's. Should we spend...

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Following on from my Fatality Stat\'s. Should we spend...

less on our boat safety equipment and more on our home stuff?

As a man who blew his liferaft budget on a 37" flatscreen TV, for home you understand, that size of TV would be scarey on a 25ft boat, clearly I'm not that obsessed with orange goods. I think a little self assessment is required.

If your boats well designed & maintained, if you sail in UK coastal waters, if you know what your about, your safer on your boat, without the orange goods, than in your house or in your car.

If on the other hand your boat is a dangerous wreck, you cross oceans and you haven't a clue. It won't matter how much you spend on safety kit.

I often wonder how many houses have, a first aid kit, a smoke alarm, a selection of fire extinguishers, a fire blanket and handily placed torches. Not many have alternative temporary housing in case the main house becomes unuseable. Not many have procedures in place for common enough emegency situations or regular training in coping with domestic disaster for all occupants. How about equipment to facilitate escape from an upper floor in a fire? Yet we all know that most injury/fatal accidents happen at home. Get us away from home on our boats though and we're equiped to the eyeballs and trained to the nines.

I can't say from my experience that the equipment is keeping me safe afloat either. In thirty years sailing, if I fall in ( 4 times to date) I'm usually unencumbered by my lifejacket, and most of my safety equipment gets binned, unused, when it's tatty or out of date.

The bloody telly's marvelous.
 

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Re: Following on from my Fatality Stat\'s. Should we spend...

I wish I had your telly.

For Sale: Loads of orange stuff.
 

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For what its worth

We have:
Offshore flare pack (came with the boat!)
Coastal flarepack (came with the boat!)
Inshore flarepack (brought with us)

Danbouy & 2 Liferings, 4 of them light things that float....

We have a number of lifejackets on board - most came with the boat, 4 we have of our own, mixture of auto and manual inflate.

Small First aid kit, 2 fire extinguishers and 1 fireblanket. 1 Fixed VHF, 1 spare antenna & cable, 1 hh VHF.

Usuall tool kit for general maintenance, wooden bungs for thru-hull fittings, odds and ends bucket with other spares in, loads of bits of rope.

Thats it for Orange stuff.... no liferaft or EPIRB...

At home we have a couple of first aid kits, 2 fire extinguishers (1 in the car though) and torches dotted around the place. Oh - and smoke alarm - just fitted!!

Safer at home or on the boat? Dunno ... would I buy a liferaft? erm - don't think our sailing justifies one yet ....
 

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Re: Following on from my Fatality Stat\'s. Should we spend...

[ QUOTE ]
Not many have alternative temporary housing in case the main house becomes unuseable.

[/ QUOTE ] Does my shed count? It had a blast over with preservative last year so it's still a bit orangey looking!
 

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The Bear necessities:

When you go on a survival at sea course they always tell you that the ship (yacht) is your best liferaft. I've always reckoned the most important safety precautions are:
1) Don't sink
2) Don't fall overboard
3) Don't set fire to anything, unless it's used to make the tea.

Stick to that and you'll never need a liferaft, flares or a fire extinguisher. Of course there's always the odd idiot who insists on head-butting the boom, so I carry a first aid kit. For the boom. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 

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Re: The Bear necessities:

Strongly recommend a Tilley hat - it preserves the boom from untoward attacks and also fulfill a useful non-safety role !
 

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Re: Following on from my Fatality Stat\'s. Should we spend...

I quite agree - safety equipment should be based on real risk assesment - not just assumptions. I quantify "Risk" as "Probability of something occuring" x "severity of occurance" i.e somethings you need even though the probability of occurance is very low, the event is catastrophic - A liferaft would probably come into this category.
I have flares, liferaft, life jackets and harnesses, 4 fire extinguishers (came standard with the new boat - probably an EU RCD requirement), horseshoe buoy & dan bouy and man overboard sling.
For minor problems with very high occurance rates I have - 2 spare fenders over and above the 4 each side which I have out to dock, lots of spare lines and warps and 2 boat hooks. (things can go pear shaped very quickly in the lock at my marina!) /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

In my house I have smoke alarms and fully RCD protected electrics.
 
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