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I've had a 3 flybridge boats - a Sealine and 2 Princesses within the last 6 years, but now I'm a sportscruiser fan - and can't see myself going to another flybridge.

Talking to a mate of mine - a flybridge fan - he was saying that flybridges , and in particular the Phantom 46, posssibly have a poorer wind deflection screen than the Princess - you get blown about a bit too much up there at speed.

So this got me thinking - with all the volumes of flybridge boats out there - surely if Fairline had got it wrong they wouldn't sell as many ? - or would have changed the design of the screen, helm seats etc ?

Is it really that "bad" ? 46 owners please add your tuppeny worth !


Adrian
 
getting nowhere fast here !

Change of question then - pros and cons of Princess fly V Fairline Phantom - fly wind/ helm seat aspect only.


Any takers ?


Adrian
 
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Give it time! Some one will be along in a while to contradict you! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Yes here i am!!
No not really can't comment on Princesses or Fairline Flys
cos i got a proper Flybridge boat, 20 ton of Heaven
As for open top boats UGH!!!
 
Havent noticed any such problem being on RogerRats Phantom 38 - and that was sitting in the round 'crew/passenger' area to the rear of the flybridge. Up front, I noticed suprisingly little buffeting, and we were out in some high-ish winds one day, and clipping along at about 23/24knts the next.

I think the cornich to P360 to P46 comparison is unfair as these boats are all of different eras. I day say much about the newest fairlines (and princess, and sealine, and everyother make) is much improved over their earlier attempts.
 
Sorry Jez,
I was only trying to demonstrate the draft problem was from the rear not the w/s.
In the interests of the new happy argument free forum I have deleted.
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Sorry Jez,
I was only trying to demonstrate the draft problem was from the rear not the w/s.
In the interests of the new happy argument free forum I have deleted.
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you being confontational?
 
I try really hard not to be, but there are a few who realize how wrong they are after reading my posts and I get the blame /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif












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You have been talking to Terry.

P360 compared with 2005 Phantom 40, the Fairline upper helm sits higher and screen lower so more wind on yer body. Phantom 40 compared with new P42 same problem, Princess sits lower /higher screen, less wind on body. Both actual results not hypothetical.
 
You're making the assumption that a big lump of a screen to deflect wind is a good thing. Not necessarily. In the Med, when its really hot, you want a good flow of air for cooling. On my last boat (AZ46), the flybridge helm and screen were too good at deflecting the wind. I would often stand up just to get some breeze
So, if the screen on the P46 is not so prominent, it might be because Fairline designed the boat for their biggest market which would be in the Med rather than the UK
 
Well there you go...

You pays your money and you takes your choice!

I am pleased that you like your sports boat. I too liked mine. I also like my wind free flybridge boat. (unless I stand up)

The ongoing question and comparison between the two is difficult for me though. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Thanks Jez, your view confirms the point, virtually no wind unless you want it.

Although I can understand the view (Deleted User) that a good draught may be desirable in the med.


I like both Sports and fly equally but in the winter, in the UK, it's bloody nice to have the choice of going below when the weather is cold or the spray is over the top! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
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I like both Sports and fly equally but in the winter, in the UK, it's bloody nice to have the choice of going below when the weather is cold or the spray is over the top! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

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Well,when you fancy a bit of a reminiss, or just want a cold day on the boat you know where Whitelighter is! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
"Although I can understand the view (Deleted User) that a good draught may be desirable in the med".

When your on a charter with several hours at the helm in 38c in August a little breeze helps I assure you.
 
It's 'horses for courses', a matter of personal preferance and circumstances dictated by your cruising area.

Having had a flybridge boat, but now with the cavernous space of an aft cabin, and the comfort and ergonomics of a single helm cockpit, I'd never go back to a flybridge, not on these islands anyway. The Fairline that catches my eye is the Targa, looks great for warmer climbs. But you have to go to the 62ft size to get the same cabin and living space as somthing like a Broom 42 or Atlantic 44. Where do you need and want your living space, inside or outside - depends on the weather!
 
OK thanks for all replies, including DAKA who deleted, I did see your post. (and didn't find it offensive !)

Deleted User - I should have said it was in relation to UK boating, you raise a valid point.

AlistairR - 3 years ago my boating requirements changed, and found I was often with my nipers on my own, or with mates, novice crew. I find that being on the same level helps enormously in keeping an eye on the kids, and directing novice crew.

Nothing wrong with flybridges (!) - my largest was the P50. Flybridge wind deflection was OK, and a perfectly, perfectly, acceptable boat.

My query was particulary in relation to the Phantom 46 fly, whereby it was discussed, between a mate and I, that the upper helm position was more "exposed" when travelling along. With Fairline making so many - I wondered if it was a "problem" to owners, or just perceived due to the comments heard about. As no Phantom 46 owners responded I still don't know ! - my reaction though - to the screen/wind/helm seat position, now, is that it can't be that big a deal. Otherwise the learned panel would have heard from friends, people at various marinas etc.

So, in conclusion - (sorry for long post) - I don't think the Phantom 46 upper helm position can be at all bad in deflecting travelling wind speed- otherwise someone would have mentioned it !


Thanks again all.

Adrian
www.cleanandshiny.co.uk
 
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