Stingo
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Just came across this diagram of a typical cruisers fishing rig. Nearly every cruiser that I met caught many fish using this system. I caught seaweed, which I suppose would be ok if I were Chinese.
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ashanta
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Is it a whale catcher?
Spyro
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So the weak link is 300lb monofilament! I don't suppose this is for catching mackerel?
snowleopard
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does the IWC know about this?
Stingo
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Who are the IWC?
paulskent
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This is a subject I was intending to raise at some time, but really was waiting till I was ready for a longer cruise. I am concentrating on other things at the moment whilst I am sailing. Like keeping the thing going in the right direction at the right speed without breaking anything...
When I had a smaller boat out in the Med we had some great meals with the fish that we caught. I am not sure that fish are going to be quite as prevelant or easily caught in the Irish Sea..
Only advice I have had so far is get a reel that will attached to the pushpit.. (No rod required and stick a lure on the end...
Anybody got any experience in this area ??
PK.
When I had a smaller boat out in the Med we had some great meals with the fish that we caught. I am not sure that fish are going to be quite as prevelant or easily caught in the Irish Sea..
Only advice I have had so far is get a reel that will attached to the pushpit.. (No rod required and stick a lure on the end...
Anybody got any experience in this area ??
PK.
Stingo
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Is it a whale catcher?
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No, but a similar rig caught this....
Is it a whale catcher?
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No, but a similar rig caught this....
Das_Boot
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I posted asking for advice, as I have sailed extensivly up north but caught nothing. Everybody was telling me to get a paravane ? which takes the lure below the water. I have not tried it yet but intend to. When I am sailing locally I anchor up or drift over a likely site and just fish on the bottom.
ashanta
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What is it a Barracuda?
Stingo
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Not sure, but I think it is a wahoo.
mirabriani
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"Usually deployed for trolling"
Mentioned it once, seem to have got away with it!
As a non fisherman, it seems to me that, with that set up,
you could have usefully suggested a way of dispatching
the catch. I can visualise the crew hopping about the cockpit
trying to avoid a fish caught by that rig!
Regards Briani
Mentioned it once, seem to have got away with it!
As a non fisherman, it seems to me that, with that set up,
you could have usefully suggested a way of dispatching
the catch. I can visualise the crew hopping about the cockpit
trying to avoid a fish caught by that rig!
Regards Briani
Das_Boot
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What is the block and tackle system that is connected to the forstay in aid of.
Stingo
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Detach it from the forestay and attach it to the cruising chute - port or starboard tack.
Das_Boot
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AAH
peterbringloe
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Yes - a touch heavy on the breaking strain maybe! I've used hand lines and fishing rods with reels and the latter makes everything much easier. You tend to notice that you've caught something more quickly and you can play the fish more effectively, and if it's big, simply getting it in is easier when you're maybe doing 6 or 7 knots. I've tried these aquaplaning devices and various weights but now settle for nothing but the lure (which tends to have a weight in it) and maybe a wire trace.
The question of how far back to troll the lure is one that I've always puzzled over. I've tended to have it a good way back on the basis that the further away the bait from the boat the less likely the fish is to associate the two - naive I know but there it is! I spoke to a fisherman in Tobago and he said it's all about boat speed. The faster the boat (They troll at about 8 knots) the further away but if you are slower then the lure should be closer to the boat - or was it the other way around?
The question of how far back to troll the lure is one that I've always puzzled over. I've tended to have it a good way back on the basis that the further away the bait from the boat the less likely the fish is to associate the two - naive I know but there it is! I spoke to a fisherman in Tobago and he said it's all about boat speed. The faster the boat (They troll at about 8 knots) the further away but if you are slower then the lure should be closer to the boat - or was it the other way around?
snowleopard
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Who are the IWC?
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International Whaling Commission.
Who are the IWC?
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International Whaling Commission.
cliff
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Always found a lump of "sea-gel" worked wonders.
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Stingo
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Always found a lump of "sea-gel" worked wonders.
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Do you mean Jonathan Livingstone Sea-gel?
Always found a lump of "sea-gel" worked wonders.
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Do you mean Jonathan Livingstone Sea-gel?
cliff
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Always found a lump of "sea-gel" worked wonders.
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Do you mean Jonathan Livingstone Sea-gel?
[/ QUOTE ]No, Sir Alfred Noble "C-Gel"
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Always found a lump of "sea-gel" worked wonders.
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Do you mean Jonathan Livingstone Sea-gel?
[/ QUOTE ]No, Sir Alfred Noble "C-Gel"
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DRW
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Used to use this sort of rig pretty much every passage (but was never allowed to on races though - don't know why). It was pretty much accepted that the fresh fish would be part of the diet, and certainly better eating than the cheap tinned stuff we brought with us.
Didn't bother with a swivel. used a section of car inner tube for the shock absorber and 3-400 lb monofiliment for the main line. A paravane with a slightly less heavy monofilament line between it and the doorknob lure is a bit cheaper than potentialy losing heavy and expensive doorknobs, but to be honest - I rarely lost those.
Usually, the fish were drowned before we noticed them and brought them in, often with good bites out of them aswell. But let the fish drown if you can, saves a hell of a mess on someone elses boat.
Another thing we used to do was have a bottle of rum on deck. As you haul in some evil tempered fish you just stick the bottle down its gullet so it runs out of its gills, and it goes happily stunned to its maker without a fight, which again is handy on a delivery of someone elses pride and joy, and keeps your fingers in the right place
A trick not shown in the diagram is to use some sort of heavyish clip on the main line and attach a bit of a loop of slack up to the backstay, so when you do get a fish it snaps off the backstay and attracts your attention before your catch gets eaten up by others. Last thing you want to do is endlessly watch behind you in case you have caught supper.
A good working rig that works, but you must have the inner tube shock absorber or you will lose the lot. Cheers.
Didn't bother with a swivel. used a section of car inner tube for the shock absorber and 3-400 lb monofiliment for the main line. A paravane with a slightly less heavy monofilament line between it and the doorknob lure is a bit cheaper than potentialy losing heavy and expensive doorknobs, but to be honest - I rarely lost those.
Usually, the fish were drowned before we noticed them and brought them in, often with good bites out of them aswell. But let the fish drown if you can, saves a hell of a mess on someone elses boat.
Another thing we used to do was have a bottle of rum on deck. As you haul in some evil tempered fish you just stick the bottle down its gullet so it runs out of its gills, and it goes happily stunned to its maker without a fight, which again is handy on a delivery of someone elses pride and joy, and keeps your fingers in the right place
A trick not shown in the diagram is to use some sort of heavyish clip on the main line and attach a bit of a loop of slack up to the backstay, so when you do get a fish it snaps off the backstay and attracts your attention before your catch gets eaten up by others. Last thing you want to do is endlessly watch behind you in case you have caught supper.
A good working rig that works, but you must have the inner tube shock absorber or you will lose the lot. Cheers.