Fine salvage mission ...and watch those mooring lines

I've seen the comments on this and it's hard to imagine the need to learn the lessons they mention:

1) If you are on the lee side of a long straight coast then when wind and swell change it's not the lee any more so you need to move
2) When tied to a mooring put two lines on it so if one goes then no problem, and if possible make sure that the mooring's own line can't make contact with your boat
3) Leaving your boat on a mooring off an exposed coast for 3 nights is not wise, and if you do choose to do that in a dead calm then get back to the boat as soon as possible if things change
 
I guess that the yacht would be a write off after that much sub surface damage and water ingress. Anyone recognise the make.
 
petehb said:
I guess that the yacht would be a write off after that much sub surface damage and water ingress. Anyone recognise the make.
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More pictures here: https://sosailize.net/sailing-articles/sailing-news/361-french-yacht-salvaged-from-the-rocks-at-ladder-bay-saba-update-video

In particular, the shape of the stern and what looks like a model number on the port quarter makes me think it is one of the RM range. (Edit: and I think RM do indeed make twin keelers).

Yes, the stern is a bit of a mess. But the rest of it looks, superficially, not to be too bad.
 
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dom said:
Good grief; how on earth did that stay afloat long enough to get to the crane!?

Re the damage; didn't a Sunsail boat sink on the Brambles a few years back only to be refloated, refitted and recommissioned a month or so later?
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On the vid, she is somewhat "trimmed down" at the stern when the tug stopped pulling. But that looks like a separate (possibly semi-watertight*) compartment aft of the wheels, and forward of that looks mostly intact.

* Yes, I know the term "semi-watertight" is total nonsense, but the "compartment" in the equivalent position on my boat has only an access hatch which, whilst still in place, would only let water in quite slowly.

My money is on the French boat being an RM1270. (Until, that is, someone knows differently and wants to take me up on that....)

Yes, there was a Sunsail incident, but wasn't that a T-boning?

It was a Maxi that had keel "issues" following a close encounter with Bramble Bank, and it was more like 3 months before she reappeared on a berth not far from me.
 
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It took a fair pounding as it was dragged off, I would think there would be nothing salvageable below decks so a complete strip out and refit probably at the very least an engine rebuild then all the work to the stern gear and keels etc
 
If it is an RM aren't they Plywood Epoxy construction? If so I would guess there is extensive damage underwater and by the time she was alongside the barge she was almost gunwales under the complete length of the boat. When you take into account yard charges and where she is constructive loss looks more likely.
 
Angele said:
* Yes, I know the term "semi-watertight" is total nonsense, but the "compartment" in the equivalent position on my boat has only an access hatch which, whilst still in place, would only let water in quite slowly.

Yes, there was a Sunsail incident, but wasn't that a T-boning?

It was a Maxi that had keel "issues" following a close encounter with Bramble Bank, and it was more like 3 months before she reappeared on a berth not far from me.
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Yes now I remember it was indeed a t-boning and yes it was a Maxi ....as in 1100 as opposed to a big beast that hit the Brambles!

Re semi-watertight bulkheads; I don't think it's nonsense at all and in fact I had a yard take a look at my boat following a dose of Vendee heebie-jeebies. As long as the bulkhead's structural element is sufficient to withstand the water pressure it should indeed be possible to get mostly there without the expensive sealed conduits, etc necessary to meet the relevant official directives. Same goes for anchor locker.

That said, the yard did make the point that most 'container impacts' are probably whale or other less sharp impacts and argue that catastrophic type ripping/glancing damage is much more likely than a classical head on collision with a container. Not much one can do if that happens at a decent speed.
 
petehb said:
If it is an RM aren't they Plywood Epoxy construction? If so I would guess there is extensive damage underwater and by the time she was alongside the barge she was almost gunwales under the complete length of the boat. When you take into account yard charges and where she is constructive loss looks more likely.
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Ahh! you mean someone's "project boat". :cool:
 
The glass fibre damage may be repairable but after a full sea-water immersion pretty much everything else will need renewing, so the cost goes exponential. Years ago one of our charter boats was put onto the rocks at Swanage, spent a few hours being ground up and down in a smaller well than this one, was dragged off and towed back to base. The hull was intact but breaking waves had filled up inside, and everything was ruined. Electrics, engine, woodwork, upholstery. We should have written it off and scrapped it. Instead we had it rebuilt very professionally - but it was never truly as good as it had been.
 
Angele said:
My money is on the French boat being an RM1270. (Until, that is, someone knows differently and wants to take me up on that....)
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Hmm! I'm doubting myself now. Hull shape is right. Cockpit layout too. Both keel configuration and cutter rig options also fit the bill....

Definitely an RM. (You can see the logo on the bow at 1min40 in the vid).

.... but the hull portholes don't seem to match the 1270. :confused:

An earlier model perhaps?
 
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