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Accepted an invite to preview the Ferretti range @ Monaco Yacht club last week end .
V informal + sea trials -no crowds no queues

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Rivas all lined up

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Inside the club house


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Crowd free -great - just pop on board anything

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Pershing inc a 108 -I asked about stabs -the owner had just swapped from a Pred 108 with stabs -too slow
Skipper told me fins above 35 knots was a no no .cruise is 37 wot 45 knots -it had gyro but they never really used em -


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Some other Italian beauties on display
 
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Itama 62 in a cream hull with new style windows - kinda grew on me
The sound stage was for Elton John later -his Muzak was piped around the place

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Precession of kit to play with going out
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New Ferretti FB,s

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Taking a Riva out
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Decent speed 37 knots @ 2350 rpm but slammed quite a bit even in this sea -wife said nope -was surprisingly noisey too
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Slammed in that @ 30 + knots has a 20 degree deadrise
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New modal released here -forgotten its name

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Mr G,s back in town
 
PowerYachtBlog said:
Nice day out. The sea although looking flat does look a bit with a short swell.
Did you slam with the Rivale?
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Yes the Rivale 53 going over those slight swells at about 26-28 knots -which felt like the sweat spot to me approx 1800rpm ish L
In typical Italian organisation -- was some uncertainty over exactly which engines it had either 6 cylinder 900 MANs or V8 ,s 1100 .
Sounded like a V8 to me .
It needed flaps down to position 6 -8 to run flat get the bow down -that's quite a bit of flap -tells me CoG is all wrong
Had twin symmetrical cabins at the rear of the saloon and owners in the bow .
80 % full of fuel .
Of course fit n finish ,build is spot on ----- when moored in a marina ----easy to flog to newbies .
One guy had no idea about V drives CoG or what flaps do -just liked the image
 
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Yes 52 Rivale always rode a bit bow high for Ferretti standards.
Also some of the early ones I tested had a turning circle of a ship.

But I know they offered a couple of rudder options for this and later newer models have the ZF by wire steering which improved handling.


Yes Rivas always do amaze for attention to detail and fit and finish even one which is like fifty years old and well kept.
 
Thanks Portofino. I did think about trying to get there but the guests I had on board seemed to prefer buying ridiculously expensive lunches and boozing all day
 
F450 and F550 are really finished. Probably one of the best finished boats I have seen. Big price difference between the F450 and F550, from memory the F550 (base price) is almost double the F450 at around €1.2m
 
jimmy_the_builder said:
Mere Germaine? Or Club 55? :D
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Paloma Beach on Friday, Club 55 on Saturday. I'm jolly glad I wasn't paying. Apparently we're doing Nikki Beach this weekend if the weather plays ball. I think my SoF fast track induction is going quite nicely so far

Btw thanks for the tip on Transat. Reasonable food and friendly service. I think they have to try a bit harder than places in the old town
 
TonyR123 said:
Big price difference between the F450 and F550, from memory the F550 (base price) is almost double the F450 at around €1.2m
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Yup I was quite surprised how competitive the F450 was. Either they're gambling on selling loads of them or they see it as a loss leader to get punters into the brand
 
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Yup I was quite surprised how competitive the F450 was. Either they're gambling on selling loads of them or they see it as a loss leader to get punters into the brand
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The 450 is an excellent option for those wanting 3 cabins in sub 50ft, and also gets the mid cabin in.
Was very surprised princess and fairline abandoned this market when the P45/Phantom46 finished production.

If Ventura brought one to the UK to show I suspect they'd sell but I doubt they'll take the risk of bringing one overr
 
Whitelighter said:
If Ventura brought one to the UK to show I suspect they'd sell but I doubt they'll take the risk of bringing one overr
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Tbh I never thought Ferrettis to be suitable for the UK mainly because of the lack of protection on the flybridge so I'm not sure the 450 would sell well in the UK. In the Med of course its a different story and I suspect that Ventura will sell a few to Brits at the Med boat shows
 
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Tbh I never thought Ferrettis to be suitable for the UK mainly because of the lack of protection on the flybridge so I'm not sure the 450 would sell well in the UK. In the Med of course its a different story and I suspect that Ventura will sell a few to Brits at the Med boat shows
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Are they that much different to the Brit boat offerings? I feel no more exposed than I have done various squadrons etc.
I assumed they didn't sell because you never see them over here and stubborn Brits struggle to look past the end of their own nose (pontoon)
 
Whitelighter said:
Are they that much different to the Brit boat offerings? I feel no more exposed than I have done various squadrons etc.
I assumed they didn't sell because you never see them over here and stubborn Brits struggle to look past the end of their own nose (pontoon)
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Agreed, the only thing that seems to be missing is a decent bimini.
 
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Tbh I never thought Ferrettis to be suitable for the UK mainly because of the lack of protection on the flybridge so I'm not sure the 450 would sell well in the UK. In the Med of course its a different story and I suspect that Ventura will sell a few to Brits at the Med boat shows
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Now with nearly two seasons behind in a Ferretti 480 I must say that I do not feel significantly more exposed than in any other fly bridge boat I have driven. It is allways going to be a bit windy up there. Thanks to the internal stairs you can easily move inside when you have had enough sunshine :-). This and many other things makes the boat very suitable for Scandinavian cruising also I think. It is a pitty that the new 450 and 550 has abandoned the internal staircase. Otherwise these new Ferrettis look very nice indeed and it is great to see so much development in Ferretti.

Here is a link to a document explaining the details behind Ferretti's quality thinking (sorry for the long reading)

http://www.coughlininternationalyachtsales.com/ferrettigroup-building-quality-yachts-1/

I'm not saying that others don't have these but it is a good summary of what quality build means for Ferretti. Some of the points must have added a lot to the build costs.
 
Now with nearly two seasons behind in a Ferretti 480 I must say that I do not feel significantly more exposed than in any other fly bridge boat I have driven. It is allways going to be a bit windy up there. Thanks to the internal stairs you can easily move inside when you have had enough sunshine :-).
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I have owned a number of flybridge boats over the years and I would say that Ferretti flybridges are amongst the most exposed of the boats I've owned. Certainly on a Princess flybridge you feel more enclosed and protected from the weather. Of course in the Med its nice to have plenty of breeze on the flybridge but in the E Channel, not! Yes the internal stairs are a great feature which attracted us to Ferrettis in the first place and we use ours a lot. I have no idea why Ferretti and others are no longer fitting this feature

Here is a link to a document explaining the details behind Ferretti's quality thinking (sorry for the long reading)

http://www.coughlininternationalyachtsales.com/ferrettigroup-building-quality-yachts-1/
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Thanks thats very interesting
 
Whitelighter said:
Are they that much different to the Brit boat offerings? I feel no more exposed than I have done various squadrons etc.
I assumed they didn't sell because you never see them over here and stubborn Brits struggle to look past the end of their own nose (pontoon)
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Yeah as I said above I think Princess flybridges tend to feel more enclosed but I agree that Fairline flybridges are not much better than Ferrettis if at all. In all honesty I don't know why Ferrettis dont seem to sell at all in the UK. After all other Italian makes like Azimut, Cranchi, Sessa amongst others sell here. Maybe its just the fact that because Ferretti prices have always been high, any Brits who could afford to buy them could afford to keep them in the Med
 
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Yes the internal stairs are a great feature which attracted us to Ferrettis in the first place and we use ours a lot. I have no idea why Ferretti and others are no longer fitting this feature
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Yes Mike. I admired Ferretti for being bastions of internal flybridge stairs (and indeed the poor flybridge is the only reason I didn't buy a 731 then the 750 that it morphed into) but alas even the great Ferretti have succumbed to fashion: they are not including a second staircase in the new 780. Their 800 will become their smallest boat with internal stairs. Such a shame.
 
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