Fastnet 1979

[sailorman]

does anyone have info on the "one ton" entrants / finishers ect in the 1979 Fastnet Race.
i have tried various sorces / sites but so far failed to find anything.
would appreciate any help chaps.

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[Sybarite]

There is a book by John Rousmanière "Fastnet 1979" which I believe gives all the details. From memory my copy is on the boat. If it turns up before then I'll let you know.

John

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[Twister_Ken]

I could give you a list of '79 Admirals Cup entrants, some of which may have been one-tonners, but my reference doesn't show their ratings, so not a lot of help unless you know the one-tonners by name.

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[MADFISH]

Just finished reading the book for about the 3rd time. It does not give a list of entrants. The RORC offce in London does I believe have it as an appendix in the official report into the race. It is available to the public from their offices in London or you can telephone them.

Their website is www.rorc.org

Why do you want it? (We are a nosey bunch you know....)

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[NigeCh]

I've got an original of the RYA?RORC 1979 Fastnet Race Inquiry. What class are 'one tonners'?

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[Twister_Ken]

One tonners were one tonners

They were various designs, what they had in common is that under IOR they all rated at (from memory), 30.5 feet, which put their actual LOA some where close either side of 40 feet.

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[NigeCh]

If that\'s the case then they were Class II

From Table 1.2 Page 7:

Class II; Rating 29-32.9; Started 53; Finished 23; Retired 30; Crew lost 0; Since recovered 0; Lost believed sunk 0.

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[Twister_Ken]

Re: If that\'s the case then they were Class II

That sounds right, it was the smaller and thus slower boats towards the back of the fleet that were really pasted.

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[sailorman]

Re: If that\'s the case then they were Class II

thanks for the responce chaps
i own "Jolie Brise" an oyster 37 (one tonner) built / launched 79.
the former owner was Wilhelm Jansen
she was German registered Reg No G 906
Wilhelm entered cowes week 79 & im led to belive done the 79 fastnet but cant confirm this.
any help would be greatly appreciated

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[Jeremy_W]

Re: One tonners were one tonners

>>>They were various designs, what they had in common is that under IOR they all rated at (from memory), 30.5 feet, which put their actual LOA some where close either side of 40 feet.

Back in 1979 (to the best of my recollection) the One Ton rating was 27.5 feet. The switch of rating to 30.5 took place some time in the early eighties. I can't see an Oyster 37 rating 30.5 somehow.

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[Twister_Ken]

Re: One tonners were one tonners

You might be right - it'll all be Googled somewhere, no doubt. And I suspect the Oyster 37 was not one of today's Oyster luxury caravans, but a Lightwave, which were pretty handy tools.. At that time I was racing half tonners like the Hustler 32. In addition there were three quarter tommers which were around 36 feet. Which is why I thought the ton-cuppers were either side of the 40' mark.

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[MADFISH]

Re: If that\'s the case then they were Class II

An Oyster 37 I believe did do the race. From memory it was called Trophy. It was rolled through 360 whilst going to assist another vessel. The crew abandoned into a liferaft that I think fell apart and people were lost. The vessel was later recovered. I will dig out the book tonight and check my facts.

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[tome]

Re: One tonners were one tonners

<Oyster 37 was not one of today's Oyster luxury caravans>

You trying to wind me up, Ken?

Incidentally, I saw a wooden boat recently renamed Marlin in Lezardrieux which the crew claimed was the prototype Twister. Very pretty.

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[Twister_Ken]

Re: One tonners were one tonners

Apropos today's big Oysters, they certainly put comfort before performance - not unnaturally as they spend most of their time tied up in the world's more salubrious fleshpots. They seem to make fast tradewind passages, though.

No such thing as a prototype Twister. The first Twister was the first Twister - Twister of Mersea, still around, moored on the Beaulieu, owned by a vey nice couple. If you see them, say I said hello.

Early and similar Holman designs were the and the <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.easternyachts.com/athenao/>Sterling. Maybe Marlin was one of those?

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[tome]

Re: One tonners were one tonners

Never sailed a big Oyster, but our Heritage 37 has sparkling performance and makes consistently fast passages. Lezardrieux to Dartmouth (99 miles logged) in 16 hours couple of weeks ago. From Dartmouth we set off in company with an HR45 to Weymouth and stayed ahead all the way until they finally overhauled us on the approach, some 50 miles later. A few weeks before (for a bit of fun) we 'joined' the back of a fleet of Sunsail Jeanneau Sunfast 37s racing in the Solent and 'came 2nd'.

As for the larger boats, an Oyster 62 took line honours at the 2001 ARC, and a friend with a 56 reckons it was sailing performance as much as build quality and comfort which influenced his decision.

Looks like Marlin may have been a Sterling, though I had the impression she was a little bigger than 28 feet.

Regards
Tom

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[MADFISH]

Re: If that\'s the case then they were Class II

I checked up on Trophy last night and my account is accurate.

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[snooks]

A bit of info...

From "The Fastnet disaster and after" Bob Fisher (pg174)

Class III - 64 starters (for Yachts of 25.5 - 28.9 feet rating)
6 finishers

There was a Jolie Brise owned by W. Jansen - She retired

Sorry there isn't more info


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[sailorman]

Re: A bit of info...

thanks Graham
i had heard a rumour that J.B. had entered & have spent the past 5 yrs trying to find-out.
we have met Wilhelm Jansens friend in Zeirikzee 4 weeks ago in a chance encounter & he has promised to try to get more info Top e-mail to me
again many thanks
roger winter

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[sailorman]

Re: A bit of info...

thanks Graham
i had heard a rumour that J.B. had entered & have spent the past 5 yrs trying to find-out.
we have met Wilhelm Jansens friend in Zeirikzee 4 weeks ago in a chance encounter & he has promised to try to get more info to e-mail to me
again many thanks
roger winter

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[Jeremy_W]

Re: A bit of info...

>>>i had heard a rumour that J.B. had entered

I think anyone naming their yacht after E.G.Martin's winner of the first Fastnet has an obligation to do the race.

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