Fairline Phantom 40 with TAMD 63Ps

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A friend of mine is intrested in Phantom 40 with 63Ps and I'm joining him to visit the boat next weekend. I know the boat is good and the engine type is one of the best past volvos but is this a good combination? I know that these engines offer plenty of power for the Phantom 38 but will they struggle in the P40? What RPMs is needed to cruise 20 - 23 knots with this setup? The boat is from 2004 and is in mint condition with 900 hours. Are there any of the (relatively minor) issues left that occured on the earlier 63ps (raw water pump gears, oil pipes issues, transom sooting). Any advice much appreciated.
 
I can't speak for the Phantom 40 but I had 63Ps in two Sealine 420s and an F42/5 from 1994 to 2005 and they never missed a beat. They were a bit sooty even on the F42/5, a 2002 boat. They took us to Bergen and back and to Santander and back amongst many other places. With a clean hull and half fuel but with a lot of cruising paraphernalia aboard they could just about make 28kts in those boats. Our cruising speed was usually about 20kts. The only non routine work I can remember was the replacement of one low pressure oil feed pipe.
 
I have 2 x 63P's in my 2001 Princess 38 which is very similar in size and weight to the Phantom 40.
Tops out 28knots at 2800 revs, cruises 18knots at 2000revs, and 22 knots at 2200revs.
I havent had any major issues other than routine service / maintenance. Starboard engine can be difficult to access the filters and impeller, unless it has a remote stack fitted.
Can be a bit wee bit sooty compared to more moden engines but keep,the air filters and the intercoolers clean and its no worse than any other boat in the class, nothing a quick wash wont sort out.
I have seen a few boats with very bad sooting and one that looked like the transom was painted black but that had a few issues, intercoolers fouled and air leaking somewhere on the induction side.
Good luck with the purchase!
 
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Thank you all for your replys! I have had several years of (positive) experience with my previous boat, a Phantom 38 with these engines however the concern my friend has is how these engines would work In a Phantom 40 which is a tad larger/heavier than the Princess/Phantom 38s. Googling this forum a bit more this topic has been discussed before and my impression from the previous threads is that while the power is not providing spectacular top end performance, the TAMD 63s gives enough power for cruising speeds around 19 - 22 knots in loaded cruising configuration, topping 27-28. With the Phantom 38 we cruised typically 22-25 knots, top speed being 31 light. Conclusion: Acceptable combination at best however with the bonus of reliable power and a nice and good behaving boat. Someone mentioned a MBY test report, in which issue was this test done?
 
I had a Phantom 40 with 63P's for five years based in Southampton. IIRC this was a 2004 model. ( Which one are you looking at ). One of the best boats I have ever owned.
Regular crossings to France every year. Always based cruising on 2400 revs giving me 24 kts. Slightly lower at the start of the crossing but speed built up as fuel burnt off. Did have one major problem with the flywheel becoming detached from the gearbox. Took several weeks to resolve. Otherwise I would trust those engines all the time.
If you want anymore information send me a PM.
 
peterandjeanette said:
I had a Phantom 40 with 63P's for five years based in Southampton. IIRC this was a 2004 model. ( Which one are you looking at ). One of the best boats I have ever owned.
Regular crossings to France every year. Always based cruising on 2400 revs giving me 24 kts. Slightly lower at the start of the crossing but speed built up as fuel burnt off. Did have one major problem with the flywheel becoming detached from the gearbox. Took several weeks to resolve. Otherwise I would trust those engines all the time.
If you want anymore information send me a PM.
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thank you! The speed at 2400 seems very close to the P38 from what I remember, this is good news.
 
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