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Deleted User YDKXO
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Just seen THIS video on the Cranchi website. I know it's a magazine test but I think it is excellent and maybe an example to other boat builders how to market their products in tricky times?
PowerYachtBlog
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Yacht & Sail is not a magazine but the name for Sailing Channel, we get it here trough Hotbird satelite network and Sky Italy network, but also through some local digital and cable TV suppliars
see also the one on the Sessa C46 on there website is good too...
see also the one on the Sessa C46 on there website is good too...
John100156
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I agree, an excellent test video - would have liked to have seen them park it in those conditions with the IPS, albeit probably somewhat booring! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
gjgm
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that galley towel rail did it for me...what an extra /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
oceanfroggie
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Yes, great bit of video. Enjoyed it. Don't know why he kept going on about the "conditions", it seemed pretty tame to me. 38ft cruiser with a 5ft barn door bathing platform stuck out the back. Cabin's looked a little cramped, and the usual skyscraper master berth needing a step ladder to get into it. Plenty of outdoor space aft without the garage.
MapisM
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At 18.12: It's better to avoid conditions like these by carefully studying the weather forecasts before you decide to go out sailing...
And it's not a translation mistake! The Italian journo does say the same in the background...
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And it's not a translation mistake! The Italian journo does say the same in the background...
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oceanfroggie
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I'm not a fan of the styling inside many of these italian boats, somewhat modern and "trendy" but with a rather sterile "MFI" look about the timber work and joinery. Not very cosey. Give my the more traditional British and Scandanavian interiors anyday. Less plastic inside and on the ceilings.
MapisM
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I'm not a fan of the styling inside many of these italian boats, somewhat modern and "trendy" but with a rather sterile "MFI" look about the timber work and joinery. Not very cosey.
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I'm not a fan of the styling inside many of these italian boats, somewhat modern and "trendy" but with a rather sterile "MFI" look about the timber work and joinery. Not very cosey.
[/ QUOTE ]Do you mean Italian styling like this, by chance? /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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Deleted User YDKXO
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Yes I agree with you to a certain extent. Cranchi and Sessa for example seem to have gone down the minimalist styling route and have done for years but they are very much production builders and Euro for Euro, they are significantly cheaper than Scandi and most Brit builders. I've visited the Cranchi factory and their production process is very impressive. They also do a lot of testing at sea. So, what I'm trying to say is that a minimalist interior style is not necessarily a sign of a poorly made boat. There are other Italian builders who do style and 'cosiness' very well. The current Azimut interior styling (eg AZ47 and AZ58) is gorgeous IMHO and the old Ferretti interior style does the leather and wood thing very well too
MapisM
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By Cranchi factory, you mean the one in San Giorgio di Nogaro I guess?
The newest one in Rogolo is going to be even more impressive/automated, as I'm told.
Though I'm still a bit lost about the logic of building big boats in the mountains and small ones at sea....
The newest one in Rogolo is going to be even more impressive/automated, as I'm told.
Though I'm still a bit lost about the logic of building big boats in the mountains and small ones at sea....
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Deleted User YDKXO
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Yes, it was the one at San Giorgio de Nogaro. I was visiting a supplier of mine in the same area (Friuli) and had a Saturday to kill. At the time I was looking at buying a Cranchi so I phoned the UK dealer and he arranged for me to visit the factory where I was very well looked after. Unfortunately I didn't buy one
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Though I'm still a bit lost about the logic of building big boats in the mountains and small ones at sea....
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For the same reason as 2 major British boatbuilders build their boats in the Midlands, I guess, which is far from the seas as you can get in the UK /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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Though I'm still a bit lost about the logic of building big boats in the mountains and small ones at sea....
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For the same reason as 2 major British boatbuilders build their boats in the Midlands, I guess, which is far from the seas as you can get in the UK /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
oceanfroggie
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It wasn't so much a perception of poorer quality, more a personal taste thing. That's just me, I prefer more of the traditional wood joinery, leather and curtains look, and no visible grp in the cabins or saloon. Like MapisM's pic above /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif Anyway I've had a look at a few more of their videos with the friendly little chap, and they are very good.
MapisM
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For the same reason as 2 major British boatbuilders build their boats in the Midlands...
[/ QUOTE ]Well, dunno if that's comparable.
Cranchi started building boats in the mountains because that's where they began it all, with small lake boats, and their first plant in Piantedo is in fact near Como Lake. But when they built a brand new plant from scratch in San Giorgio, they dedicated it to small boats, continuing to build the bigger ones in Piantedo.
Afaik, their point was that they had more skilled manpower in Piantedo, which was better used for bigger/more expensive boats. Not at the forefront of logistic optimization anyway, I always thought....
For the same reason as 2 major British boatbuilders build their boats in the Midlands...
[/ QUOTE ]Well, dunno if that's comparable.
Cranchi started building boats in the mountains because that's where they began it all, with small lake boats, and their first plant in Piantedo is in fact near Como Lake. But when they built a brand new plant from scratch in San Giorgio, they dedicated it to small boats, continuing to build the bigger ones in Piantedo.
Afaik, their point was that they had more skilled manpower in Piantedo, which was better used for bigger/more expensive boats. Not at the forefront of logistic optimization anyway, I always thought....
Nick_H
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As a sales video it was OK, but as a test it was pretty awful, as they didn't highlight any shortcomings of the boat except the windscreen rail, and they even tried to make that sound like a plus point! I've yet to go on any boat that doesn't have a few downsides, and surely a test should show them.
I think the exterior shots were all taken at one time in a sheltered location, but were then interspersed with inside clips in rougher conditions, so it seems that the guy thought smooth seas were a bit too rough to go out in.
It's certainly a level of detail that I haven't seen in a "test" before though, and i'd certainly be pleased to see that much info about a boat I was considering buying, even if it left me to find out what the boats bad points were.
I think the exterior shots were all taken at one time in a sheltered location, but were then interspersed with inside clips in rougher conditions, so it seems that the guy thought smooth seas were a bit too rough to go out in.
It's certainly a level of detail that I haven't seen in a "test" before though, and i'd certainly be pleased to see that much info about a boat I was considering buying, even if it left me to find out what the boats bad points were.