European ensigns - are they recognised?

[Anonymous]

One sometimes sees the blue flag with a ring of stars, with an inset national flag, flying as an ensign on yachts. I haven't seen the British version, is it the union flag or a miniature ensign? In any case, are they recognised under international maritime law? If so, does anyone know when they were, and what the approval mechanism was?

 

[Robin]

No, they are illegal and IMO simply serve to show the ignorance of the user.

The same goes too for the 'Cornish' ensign, white cross on black background and Union Flag in the corner. If they want to fly the Cornish flag at the spreaders why not but not in the form of an ensign and certainly not in foreign waters as I have often seen in Brittany.

 

[RupertW]

I'm intrigued too- I'd like to replace my Red Ensign with a proper Euro flag but not sure whether it counts yet.

Perhaps we should all get together to lobby our MPs?

 

[Phoenix of Hamble]

Hee Hee.... nice try Rupert

 

[Major Catastrophe]

/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I detect a troll!

I once had a roll of loo paper with the Eurocommunist's flag printed on it.

Had to throw it away as it stained my ars& blue.

 

[Bejasus]

funnily enough, I spotted a Dutch version of this in Southwold last week. First one I had seen like this, although I had seen just a Euro flag flown as an ensign previously. People showing their ignorance I guess.

 

[Guest]

Re: European ensigns - are they recognised? ........

G.T.F.

If that day should ever appear - I shall certainly change "flag-state" and give it the bums-rush ....

They'll be designing a flag soon that has stars in one corner and then blue EU colour horizontal stripes on rest ........

 

[MedMan]

No, they are not approved, nor are they legal. It's a shame as they make an excellent ensign. However, I have got one though I do not fly it abroad:

For me it says everything I wish my ensign to say: I am quite clearly British, but I am part of the EC in which I spend much of my life.

 

[RupertW]

That's a much better troll - you've even mocked up a picture.

 

[MASH]

An Ensign is an official, formal and legally recognized/legally defined badge of national registry. It is NOT, repeat, NOT a frippery to be modified for personal statements or any other trivial indulgence, and I agree wholeheartedly that it clearly and publically demonstrates the state of intelligence of anyone who does use so misuse it.

Probably goes with "unique" modified numberplates on the car that dont actually spell anything at all...

 

[RupertW]

I agree with you - that's why I don't currently fly a Euro ensign even though I'd really like to. I just need some advice on how I can campaign for getting a permanent legal rule change to make it my ensign.

I'm happy to lose the union jack bit in the corner if that makes it easier.

 

[PuffTheMagicDragon]

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For me it says everything I wish my ensign to say: I am quite clearly British, but I am part of the EC in which I spend much of my life.

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I once saw this in the marina and for a moment I thought "There goes another one!"

And no I am not <span style="color:yellow">colour</span> blind /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[Major Catastrophe]

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I'm happy to lose the union jack bit in the corner if that makes it easier.

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Still not biting. Far too blatant.

 

[kengill]

Wrong shade of blue for the saltire

 

[Nich39Nige]

See them all the time in the caribbean, mainly frogs and krauts although the cat next to me flies the European blue with stars......he's a canadian! Me.......I fly the blue (blows raspberry)

 

[bob_tyler]

I hope that you "wear" it, not "fly" it

 

[MASH]

Grrrmphh! Horrocks! NO NO NO!!!

The boat "Wears" the Ensign, unless you yourself are the Admiral of the Red, White or Blue of course, in which case you are perfectly entitled to "Fly" said personal Ensign, under which circumstances it would be a Flag of course, not an Ensign...

If not, and you choose to adulterate your National Flag with some appalling piece of euro-tat then please have the decency not to refer to it as the "Union Jack". That is another formal. official and legal definition that refers to the Union Flag only, but only, when flown from the jackstaff of a British warship in commission. There is no other occasion when it can be referred to as the "Union Jack."

There is only one Ensign that can be worn on a British registered vessel and that is the Red Ensign, unless the owner is on board, in posession of a Warrant from the Admiralty and complies with the conditions rquired to wear a special Ensign, ie the Blue or White.

Cheat, and its a bit like wearing a University tie you are not entilted to...marks you as a sham, publically, ...to all the world.

 

[Birdseye]

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An Ensign is an official, formal and legally recognized/legally defined badge of national registry. It is NOT, repeat, NOT a frippery to be modified for personal statements or any other trivial indulgence, and I agree wholeheartedly that it clearly and publically demonstrates the state of intelligence of anyone who does use so misuse it.

Probably goes with "unique" modified numberplates on the car that dont actually spell anything at all...

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I think you were the only decent bite he got. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[graham]

Andre flies a red flag Xian Chex is blue.

 

[cliff]

Personally my boat wears one of these and no bureaucrat in Brussels or London will stop it being worn. (It IS a legal ensign!)
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