Etap 22

[sutton sailor]

I am hoping to buy an Etap 22 (Early boat) can anyone direct me to a boat report for one of these boats? I have been told that the makers did a test where they flooded it with water up to the companion way, then sailed it from Holland to England, was this so?[ Is it true that Etap are no longer operating. Does anybody stock spares? I am thinking of copying the Anderson 22 (B) layout whereby a bulkhead is installed immediately in front of the galley area with a marine toilet on the port side with another bulkhead forward of the toilet, thereby reducing it to 3.5 berths and a toilet with a curtain across the front. Has anyone done this? Can anyone see a problem with this idea?

 

[duncan99210]

No idea about the Etap 22 but you need to be very careful about moving bulkheads in grp boats. They usually form part of the structure of the boat, lending stiffening to the hull and moving them may compromise the integrity of the hull.

 

[sutton sailor]

I am not planning to move the bulkhead. I am proposing to add two bulkhead which I suspect will add strength and weight to the boat.

 

[Tranona]

I am not planning to move the bulkhead. I am proposing to add two bulkhead which I suspect will add strength and weight to the boat.

Why would you want to do that? The Etap is a very well engineered boat with double hulls and foam in between. It definitely does not need any extra strength nor weight. Not something you want to mess about with. If you want an Anderson 22 layout then buy one. There are usually some for sale.

 

[anoccasionalyachtsman]

I think that sutton sailor wants to add a privacy partition - not a mahoosive collision bulkhead having torn everything else out.

And if he's found something he admires in an Anderson 22, who can fault him?

 

[JohnGC]

I am hoping to buy an Etap 22 (Early boat) can anyone direct me to a boat report for one of these boats? I have been told that the makers did a test where they flooded it with water up to the companion way, then sailed it from Holland to England, was this so?[ Is it true that Etap are no longer operating. Does anybody stock spares? I am thinking of copying the Anderson 22 (B) layout whereby a bulkhead is installed immediately in front of the galley area with a marine toilet on the port side with another bulkhead forward of the toilet, thereby reducing it to 3.5 berths and a toilet with a curtain across the front. Has anyone done this? Can anyone see a problem with this idea?

I have a scan of a French article; Dover to Calais. It was a 21i.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vaw6it30blij9iq/Crossing the channel.pdf?dl=0

Here is YBW version on the 21i.
http://www.yachtingmonthly.com/gear/trying-to-sink-an-unsinkable-boat-31338

These people may still carry some spares.
http://www.woodrolfe.com

John.

 

[Tranona]

And if he's found something he admires in an Anderson 22, who can fault him?

Exactly. It will make seajet's day!

 

[coveman]

You can find a lot of information on the forum of the Etap Owners website - http://www.etapowners.org.uk/

I recently bought a 22i and found the forum helpful. It doesn't get that much use but if you ask a question you normally eventually get an answer.
Some spares are available from Tollesbury Marina/Woodrolfe Brokerage - http://www.woodrolfe.com/
They specialise in Etaps and there is a guy there ( whose name I cant remember ) who knows a lot about them and is very helpful.

You won't be disappointed with an Etap - double skinned with foam between makes them unsinkable but has the added benefit of insulating the hull so you get a lot less condensation. Mine lives on a mooring and stays completely dry.

 

[sutton sailor]

Thanks to all for the advice and info. Yes it is a bit of privacy that I am after.

 

[Seajet]

The Anderson 22 ' A ' layout provides privacy, I have heavy denim curtains across the entrance to the forepeak in the forebulkhead, and across the saloon access in the main bulkhead.

The ' B ' layout gives more room for two tall occupants in the forpeak, but I'd say less privacy as it would be tricky to curtain off the forecabin - and less stowage space, I fitted three useful lockers and a bookshelf in place of the rather dubious standard ' hanging locker '.

Re the Etap 22, if planning on a drying mooring check if the keel goes all the way up with the ballast bulb flush with the hull, I'm not sure any of their models around that size did.

The Etap 26 has this snag too; someone tried one on our moorings but she was on her ear even our very soft mud; seems the lift keels are more draft reducing than for drying except perhaps with legs ?

 

[coveman]

The keel of the Etap 22 does not retract completely into the hull, as you say - the bulb does not retract into the hull and is similar to my 22i in that you would need legs as I have, if you wanted to dry out. These simply bolt onto the sides but obviously they are another item to carry in a relatively small boat. If you are on very soft mud you may get away without them.
Both the keel and rudder can be lifted for sailing in shallow waters - the purpose of the lifting keel being mainly for easy launching /recovery as a trailer sailor and shallow sailing. The draught on the 22i ranges from 0.4m - 1.25m depending on the setting of the keel, which I think is similar on the 22.

Having said all that I consider it is a great boat but then I don't know much about the Anderson 22!!

 

[Seajet]

I am not knocking Etaps, I thought the 26 a great boat if only the keel retracted fully - as mentioned it didn't work even on our moorings where the mud is about as soft as it gets, too dangerous to think about walking on.

For info the keel on the A22 retracts fully, and perhaps more importantly the bulb is veed on top so it fairs in with the hull, preventing small stones etc from jamming it as I've seen with other lift keelers like Seal 22's & 28's.

She sits completely upright in soft mud, there's a photo in the ' Buyers Guide ' on my website below.

I think this bulb shape may even contribute some ' end plate ' effect and can't see why a lot more lift keelers don't have this feature.