epoxy / primer compatibility of different brands

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From the one step forwards two steps back department...

Having ground out blisters, dried, laminated, filled and faired my rudder I have recently painted it with Hempel Gelprotect SFE 200. Several people advised me to use International gelshield but I was warned off it by others who pointed out that Gelshield 200 is solvent based and might interact badly with a repaired rudder and gelshield plus is a pro product which apparently I don't have the conditions to apply it in.

Next step is to apply an underwater primer. I was going to use primocon but my neighbour in the boatyard (who clearly knows rather more than I) was warning about possible negative interactions between layers from different manufacturers. The existing antifoul on the rest of the boat is micron extra (which has worked well for me) and I don't want to scrape all the old antifoul and apply something different. I always thought that stuff like primocon was specifically what you'd use to tie between 2 potentially dissimilar products.

Is a problem with using international primocon over hempel gelprotect sfe 200 likely or does it (as I suspect) fall into the category of "possible but so remote no rational person would worry about it". And if I should worry, is using a hempel primer with an International antifoul just as suspect? I really don't want to strip everything down to the gelcoat.

I was feeling pretty pleased with my rudder painting until now. My neighbour also pointed out the little ripples in the epoxy and suggested I should have stretched cling film over the wet gelprotect to get it smooth. Now feeling dispirited and incompetent again...
 
Well-cured epoxy is pretty inert stuff. There are very few things it reacts adversely to, least of all other epoxies.

The main issue is solvent-based epoxy under non-solvent epoxy. Obviously the solvent in the lower layer needs somewhere to go. If you slap a load of other stuff on top of it, then it's trapped...'solvent entrapment'. This severely compromises the bond between the two layers, to the extent that the upper one sometimes simply falls off.

Thus if solvent-free is applied over solvent-based, the latter needs to be thoroughly cured and dried. Depending on weather conditions, this might take a day or two, or even a week: the spec-sheet should advice. Note that some solvent-based epoxy primers are excellent undercoats once cured and dried; they can stay 'open' almost indefinitely with no need to key for the next coat.
 
gelprotect sfe 200 is solvent free. I was planning to put primocon over the top then antifoul. My question was just whether I should realistically have any concerns about overcoating a hempel epoxy (solvent-free and already applied) with an International primer. Didn't occur to me there would be any issue until my neighbour raised the concern. I still find it hard to believe it would be a problem but he seems to know what he's doing and I don't really.

Suspect my ripples in the gelprotect were the result of rollering it on too thickly.
 
I don't believe your neighbour knows as much as you might think. Follow the instructions for overcoating the epoxy and you will have no problem with either Primocon or the Hempel equivalent. Whichever primer you use you will have no problem putting Micron Extra over it.
 
To follow up..thanks for confirming my thoughts. I talked to International's technical department this morning and they confirmed:
- no problem with primocon over hempel sfe 200 (although they pointed out that my dithering means I'll need to give it a sand to key it)
- no problem with using micron extra 2 over hempel's underwater primer

thanks to all for your advice
 
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