Ep 140 gear oil. And done something stupid

[rosewood]

Hi folks. Does anyone know where I can pick up some EP140 gear oil please down Portsmouth way. I can get it on the inter web but was hoping to fill the gearbox tomorrow. It's an old engine and the gear oil seems pretty hard to find unless I order it off the web.
Also, i bought and fitted an aerial for the ais but didn't think as usual and now the wire won't reach. Can't take it back because I already cited it. Can I just buy a connector and join two lengths? Sorry if this is a stupid question.
This really is my new/old project

 

[FullCircle]

You have a Seagull, and I have SAE140. Sadly the factions are 200 miles apart.

 

[Hugh Foulis]

I would be very surprised if your local motor factor doesnt have it in stock. you may have to buy a gallon can though. As for the co-ax whats lost in doing just that ie buying a 2 connectors and some extra cable. make sure cable is same resistance as the original. Extra connector in line is never the best arrangement but no reason why it shouldnt work.

 

[JumbleDuck]

Hi folks. Does anyone know where I can pick up some EP140 gear oil please down Portsmouth way.

Is it a Seagull? There seem to be two different SAE140s out there. Genuine Seagull stuff is so thick that it practically has to be chiselled out the bottle; I ave also bought some from a motor factor which was very much thinner. Why this should be I don't know. However, if you can get by with the thinner stuff, try a factor.

 

[Bilgediver]

Hi folks. Does anyone know where I can pick up some EP140 gear oil please down Portsmouth way. I can get it on the inter web but was hoping to fill the gearbox tomorrow. It's an old engine and the gear oil seems pretty hard to find unless I order it off the web.
Also, i bought and fitted an aerial for the ais but didn't think as usual and now the wire won't reach. Can't take it back because I already cited it. Can I just buy a connector and join two lengths? Sorry if this is a stupid question.
This really is my new/old project

Did you check out Halfords. They used to have a shelf with all the small bottles of such oils.

 

[sarabande]

Landrover dealer, but the main people are very expensive.

Try these (except Guy Salmon of course !)

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=p...nnel=fflb&gws_rd=cr&ei=ejYFU83xIM6UhQec2IDABQ

 

[Pleiades]

Smith and Allan are great for all sorts of oil - they do EP 140 gear oil which is the right stuff for Seagull gearboxes.
http://www.smithandallan.com/prodpage.aspx?id=1859
140 is still used in types of farm machinery so if you don't want to order from S&A try agricultural merchants.
Robin
Pleiades of Birdham
MCWQ5

 

[VicS]

Smith and Allan are great for all sorts of oil - they do EP 140 gear oil which is the right stuff for Seagull gearboxes.
http://www.smithandallan.com/prodpage.aspx?id=1859
140 is still used in types of farm machinery so if you don't want to order from S&A try agricultural merchants.
Robin
Pleiades of Birdham
MCWQ5

Actually a straight 140 gear oil is the correct oil for Seagull gearboxes according to the Owners handbooks. They do not use hypoid gears so an EP oil is not required. In fact normally one would not use an EP oil with bronze gears but it only causes a problem at elevated temperatures so can be used in a Seagull gearboxes as they have an effective cooling system.

 

[rosewood]

Actually I will use it in the seagull. But it's mainly for the gearbox on my petter inboard. Thanks for the advice folks. Off today to see if I can sniff some out

 

[Pleiades]

Actually a straight 140 gear oil is the correct oil for Seagull gearboxes according to the Owners handbooks. They do not use hypoid gears so an EP oil is not required. In fact normally one would not use an EP oil with bronze gears but it only causes a problem at elevated temperatures so can be used in a Seagull gearboxes as they have an effective cooling system.

That's a bit of a red herring VicS - unless you plan to run a Seagull without benefit of water - the gearbox is always effectively water cooled. Hence British Seagull supplied their own branded EP 140 gear oil in bottles -marked EP140 (or EP90 for the QB series) on the label.

Another good source if you can't get it locally is Miller Oils (milleroils.co.uk) - they supply SAE 140 API GL-4, described as "Classic Gear Oil EP 140 "- perfect for veteran and vintage Cars, motorcycles and commercials, and Seagulls. But as for the Petter - no idea on that.
Robin
Pleiades of Birdham
MXWQ5

 

[VicS]

That's a bit of a red herring VicS -
Pleiades of Birdham
MXWQ5

but based on what it says in both of my Seagull Owners Handbooks and what it says in the SOS website As I said the Seagull gear box has an effective cooling system.


BTW John Williams has the EP140 at £5.50 per litre but the P&P makes it an uneconomical purchase and he therefore recommends agricultural suppliers.

Personally I "acquired" enough some years ago to see me out.

 

[Neil]

if it was only the Seagull, you could have tried dissolving some marine grease in engine oil - it makes a nice thick uniform mixture that doesn't separate out.The lubrication requirements aren't stingent; by the time all the water gets past the seals into the gear box, it's a moot point anyway. Just don't use grease on its own.

 

[rosewood]

Managed to get some at Havant motor factors. Had to buy a gallon but at least it will last me. Thanks for the replies