Sgeir
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Looks like a very serious ferry disaster in the Red Sea.
Egyptian ferry sinks in Red Sea
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trouville
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Gosh some nordic Vikings just arrived there do you think they were involved!
But having looked at some of the ferries sadly it could have been over crowded and doubtfully maintained!
Its an area where might and money rule
You would really enjoy the Viking weekend and week in Sweden! They have a real village and fight other Vikings last year from Poland The Polish won judging by the nummbers carried off!! The EEC nanny state hasent got there yet bring your own drink enjoy the food and enviroment
They even have sea battles with boats like the one you have on your post!! You should bring your own woman as well as the Viking woman are used to their men and their ways!!!And consider all men the same untill proved otherwise over a very long time!!!
But having looked at some of the ferries sadly it could have been over crowded and doubtfully maintained!
Its an area where might and money rule
You would really enjoy the Viking weekend and week in Sweden! They have a real village and fight other Vikings last year from Poland The Polish won judging by the nummbers carried off!! The EEC nanny state hasent got there yet bring your own drink enjoy the food and enviroment
They even have sea battles with boats like the one you have on your post!! You should bring your own woman as well as the Viking woman are used to their men and their ways!!!And consider all men the same untill proved otherwise over a very long time!!!
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1st reports suggest vehicles shifted in heavy weather causing capsize.
Norman_E
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A 35 year old ferry. That was even older than some of the rust buckets that used to ply the English Channel. Seriously it was a pretty old ship, most merchant vessels seem to be scrapped well before that age, though liners seem to be longer lived. I used to receive regular copies of Lloyds Index, and was always struck by how quickly merchant ships went to the breakers.
oldharry
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A 35 year old ferry. That was even older than some of the rust buckets that used to ply the English Channel.
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BBC carry a link ot the Shipping line, with pictures of their fleet: Several of them are shown still in their old P&O livery - several pictiures almost certainly being the old 'Pride of Cherbourg' (rumoured to have been a 'modernised' LTC) , while others look remarkably like the old Townsend Thorenson Ferries that disappeared after Zeebrugge.
The one that has sunk is not immediately identifiable as she has clearly had a massive superstructure 2 or 3 decks high added above bridge level. What that must have done for her stability is anybodies guess, but in the light of what has happened....?
A 35 year old ferry. That was even older than some of the rust buckets that used to ply the English Channel.
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BBC carry a link ot the Shipping line, with pictures of their fleet: Several of them are shown still in their old P&O livery - several pictiures almost certainly being the old 'Pride of Cherbourg' (rumoured to have been a 'modernised' LTC) , while others look remarkably like the old Townsend Thorenson Ferries that disappeared after Zeebrugge.
The one that has sunk is not immediately identifiable as she has clearly had a massive superstructure 2 or 3 decks high added above bridge level. What that must have done for her stability is anybodies guess, but in the light of what has happened....?
westhinder
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The El Salam Boccaccio 98 was built as the Boccaccio in 1970 and was originally used between Italy and Northern Africa. Later three decks were added.
One of the other El Salam ferries, the Tag Al Salam, indeed started life in 1969 as Townsend Free Enterprise IV, which plied the North Sea between Zeebrugge and England.
One of the other El Salam ferries, the Tag Al Salam, indeed started life in 1969 as Townsend Free Enterprise IV, which plied the North Sea between Zeebrugge and England.
Danny_Labrador
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In the Times today, 04/02/06) it says, to quote:-
"The vessel simply vanished from the radar, unable even to send out an SOS. It was UK Mission Control Centre at RAF Kinloss that raised the alarm at 23.58 GMT when a young corporal in the darkened search-and-rescue base near Inverness saw an electronic blip on his screen, followed by a ringing sound."
How would that be then? What radar signal response would the guy on Scotland have on his screen ?
"The vessel simply vanished from the radar, unable even to send out an SOS. It was UK Mission Control Centre at RAF Kinloss that raised the alarm at 23.58 GMT when a young corporal in the darkened search-and-rescue base near Inverness saw an electronic blip on his screen, followed by a ringing sound."
How would that be then? What radar signal response would the guy on Scotland have on his screen ?
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Don't know, but yahoo news says "Survivors told of crew keeping lifejackets from passengers and of taking to lifeboats and abandoning passengers to their fate. Despite fire below deck, the listing ship had continued sailing out to sea for hours before disaster struck, they said."
Obviously have to wait until the facts are properly established, but it doesn't sound like the crew necessarily covered themselves in glory. And what about the other ship that is reported to have received a distress call from them - it will be interesting to see what action they took and why the coastguard didn't seem to know what was going on.
All sounds like just a bit of a cock-up one way or another, to put it mildly.
Obviously have to wait until the facts are properly established, but it doesn't sound like the crew necessarily covered themselves in glory. And what about the other ship that is reported to have received a distress call from them - it will be interesting to see what action they took and why the coastguard didn't seem to know what was going on.
All sounds like just a bit of a cock-up one way or another, to put it mildly.
landaftaf
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every vessel has an epirb - in laymans terms an electronic beacon that sends a position report to satallites which relay the info to receiver stations.
so kinloss (being our centre of emergency co-ordination) received the automatic distress signal from vessel in distress through the international satallite monitoring system and simply relayed the info to the appropriate authorities.
any epirb will alert the authorities as necessary when properly programmed. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
so kinloss (being our centre of emergency co-ordination) received the automatic distress signal from vessel in distress through the international satallite monitoring system and simply relayed the info to the appropriate authorities.
any epirb will alert the authorities as necessary when properly programmed. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Bergman
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In that part of the world the surveillance will be such that anything happening will apear on a screen somewhere.
And of course the screen can be many miles remote from the sensor of radar head that detects it.
Don't think it was a reference to EPIRB - that gives a positive indication rather than "disappearing" from screen.
Good bits of kit these Nimrods.
And of course the screen can be many miles remote from the sensor of radar head that detects it.
Don't think it was a reference to EPIRB - that gives a positive indication rather than "disappearing" from screen.
Good bits of kit these Nimrods.