Donal Redford

[Magic_Sailor]

Whilst returning from a pleasant sail last weekend I was proceeding North up the Marchwood channel at the top of Southampton Water.....when the Donald Redford (of Hythe Pier bisection fame) appears off my starboard quarter - overtaking.

It was on a vary fine angle to me - cutting across my bows. It came on...and on ...and on with no regard whatsoever for my vessel. Eventually we were squeezed between it and the yellow Marchwood buoy with feet to spare on either side. I was not concerned about a collision but it clearly was taking no action whatsoever.

All I can say is "watch out - there be a Jonah aboard yon devil ship!"

Magic

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[jimi]

Had the same experience in the Hamble a year or so ago

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[Peppermint]

As soon as an incident like this happens get on the VHF to VTS. They use 14 & 12 but you'll get them on 16. They will have the whole thing recorded both radar, vhf call and often cctv. They will have a word with the miscreant for you.

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[Magic_Sailor]

I immdeiatley called VTS on VHF - several times - they did not respond

Magic

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[burgundyben]

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I am under the impression that a bye law for Southampton water gives right of way of commercial vessels over pleasure surpassing coll regs?

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[burgundyben]

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I am under the impression that a bye law for Southampton water gives right of way of commercial vessels over pleasure surpassing coll regs?

exept of course in the case of Donald Redford and Hythe Pier......

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[Twister_Ken]

Time to CHIRP

Grass DR up <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.writeforweb.com/twister1>Let's Twist Again

 

[jhr]

The Harbour Bylaws say "The master of a small vessel which is not confined to the fairway shall not make use of the fairway so as to obstruct other vessels which can navigate only within the fairway". But I'd have thought that this would be tempered by the fact that:

1) The bylaws also say that nobody should navigate "without due care and caution".

2) The DR was overtaking and should have been exercising caution by virtue of this in any event?

3) Whatever the regs say, this sounds to me like thoroughly bad seamanship and inconsiderate behaviour. Would it really have caused them much grief to have given him a bit more space?

....or perhaps I'm very old fashioned. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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[AlexL]

Re: Time to CHIRP

On the subject of CHIRPS, aviation magazines print the accident investigation reports each month, along with a selection of informative, and educational CHIRPS, usually 'self grassing up types' i.e with people admiting their own mistakes and comments on the lessons learned - all of which are very informative and only take up 1 or 2 pages in a mag. Perhaps this is something useful for YM to consider incorporating? although i'm not sure how many MAIB reports or CHIRPS are raised each month.

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[jamesjermain]

Re: Time to CHIRP

Not a bad idea at all. In fact, the YM Confessional page was a copy of the flying mags' 'self-grassing' page. Also, when there is an important MAIB report, we do tend to give it good coverage - the recent radar assisted collision between a yacht and a large ship being a case in point.

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[Peppermint]

Re: Not tiddlers like this old sand rustler.

thats for the big stuff with a moving prohibited zone. And it is only in force in the "Precautionary area". Though anyone who acts like all big ships have right of way is only being sensible.

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[Peppermint]

Which Channel???

I'll be talking to them in the next month or so. I'll ask them whats what if you like.

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[Peppermint]

Re: Near Miss reporting

is a very important part of industrial safety. It's best if it's un-attributable but it's best to learn fron a near thing than a full blown incident.

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[Magic_Sailor]

Channel 12 - the one they were talking to the Donald Redford on not 5 minutes before!

Magic

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