It's trying to find somewhere that has good sailing (for longer than 4-5mnths of the year), food, and people that is the problem. i've been thinking about this for a couple of months now, and have pretty much drawn a blank.
AND there is the issue of would i really want to live in a country that would let me in???
Country has to be OZ... yep sailing all year round... good food , good friendly people, good at ALL sports....
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would we let you in ... I dunno .. send me $100,000 in unmarked AU$100 notes and I will put in a good word for you.
BrianJ
Depends on your definition of 'good'. The three things that get me down the most about the UK are the weather, taxes and traffic. I lived for several years in the Cayman Islands where none of these were an issue, but I was still desperate to get out of the place after 5 years!! That was in the mid-80's, now I would go back there tomorrow if a suitable opportunity arose.
It all comes down to the grass being greener on the other side of passport control, until you actually live in a place for period of time.
<hr width=100% size=1>It's frustrating when you know all the answers, but nobody bothers to ask you the questions.
Has to be the Whitsunday Islands, all 74 of them off the east coast of Australia, sailing all year round, good diving, fishing, sunshine, no frost, only rains at night 80% of the time, we speak the same language [well almost], very friendly people. We do have a form of VAT but it's tame compared to yours.
Err I think I might be just a little tiny weeny bit biased though, but hay, it's bloody fantastic and I love it with a passion.
Mid winter here right now only 23 c today and will drop to 15 c tonight.
Avagoodweekend........
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one minor problem about that area around the whitsundays, and that is the jellyfish!, after them, the sea snakes, blue ringed octopi and great whites are really just teddy bears.
I know a country where the people are (broadly speaking) friendly, tolerant and educated. The economy is in excellent shape, with low inflation and unemployment and a good standard of living. It's blessed with vibrant, cosmopolitan cities, beautiful countryside and a temperate climate, and has some of the most famous and challenging sailing areas in the world. The language spoken there is understood worldwide and the tax regime is benign. It's called the United Kingdom.
The grass is always greener somewhere else.
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Yes we do have stingers [jelly fish], sharks, but not great whites, its not cold enough for them; and blue ringed octopus with a few sea snakes thrown in for good measure, we also have a number of fish that sting and all manner of flying and crawling things.
But the facts are that jellyfish on the islands, and only a couple a year on the mainland beaches have stung very few people.
No has been bitten by a sea snake in years, they have a very small mouth and can’t bight you in most places, the last was bitten was on the skin between the thumb and first finger, keep your hand closed or thumb next to your finger and no problem, sea snakes are very curious and not savage.
Sharks are all over the place, but not one has eaten anyone in years, they are well fed from existing natural food chain, and don’t bother with us humans much.
Blue ringed octopus is a very rare find in this region but they are around, again I can find no history of people shuffling of this coil as a result.
You forgot to mention Moray Eels, Stone fish and Butterfly cod to name but a few, and lets not forget a high population of spiders, and land snakes, sand flies, mosquitoes and cane toads.
Well after many many years of waking all over and diving all around the islands I’m still here, still walking but less diving due to more fishing for that world record, or just a good feed.
Your situation seems to be too many people in a small area all armed, and dangerous to anything that poses a threat be it real or a distant possibility. The end result is nothing left but the rapid breeders, like roaches, fleas, spiders, rats, mice, flies and other pests, but nothing worth looking at, even the fishing is poor, diving is a hazard in most areas though there are some good spots left.
And I did say I am just a tiny bit biased.
Avagoodweekend.
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Foul weather
Short term job contracts
Foul weather
High taxation
Foul weather
Teenage parasites in hooded jackets
Foul weather
Traffic jams
Foul weather
TV for the educationally subnormal
Foul weather
Ludicrous house prices
Foul weather
Litter strewn streets
Foul weather
What's wrong with Britain then?
Apart from the weather.
ID Cards
Removing the right to trial by jury
charging 'wrongly' convicted prisoners for their time in jail
Big brother snooping laws
civil liberties
anti terror laws
Head hunting in a no blame culture
going out 'to get' the guy deported from Portugal (fair trial he can expect)
ID Cards!
Number plate recognition to spy on everyone coming and going
Making these systems 'pay' for themselves
Being a draconian despot and making much of the population very miserable
and then there is his boss and the guy next door (just wait for the council tax reforms)
We are very content with the south of sunny Spain! Friendly people, low cost of living, and great weather - a couple of months a bit too hot, a couple of months a bit too cold, and eight months of almost perfect weather!
Not too many places to go to on the Costa del Sol for a day-sail, but lots of places to chose from if you have two or three days to spare. Try Morocco or up the river to Seville.
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Have to agree about the Whitsundays. We chartered a boat there last year, brilliant place. The biggest danger was being trampled by hordes of backpackers doing the Gap Year tour, most looked thoroughly bored. You forgot to mention getting jumped on by amorous whales, as happened to that charter yacht last year.
Dan
I did miss out on the annual whale run. A few years back we off the coat just south of Mackay (Just south of the Whitsunday's) when we spotted a pod of 4 whales including 2 babies.
The timber square rigged vessel One And All was heading south with a heap of passengers on board; I radioed the skipper and gave him the position and heading the whales were on, he changed course and sailed close enough for the crowd to enjoy the show. We could see some of them in the rigging.
The Skipper called back and thanked me very much and we had a chat about his plans to sail south to Brisbane and so on.
When I next reported to the Yacht club bar I presented with a bottle of Bundy Rum, arranged by the skipper to say thanks again.
Perhaps that's why I don't see whales as a threat, rather a good way to entertain the tourists and have a nice drink at the same time.
Avagoodweekend.
<hr width=100% size=1> Old Salt Oz /forums/images/icons/cool.gif Growing old is unavoidable. However, growing up is still optional.
Britain is rapidly returning to its pre-imperial status of a 2nd rate damp European appendage populated by unhealthy, alcoholic thugs.
I suppose that a few blinkered yuppies living in one of the few vibrant UK cities might subscribe to your view. However there are better measures of a nation's health.
Look at teenage pregnancy, heart disease, asthma, divorce and standard behaviour on the streets. We don't qualify as a 1st world nation any more irrespective of the numbers touted by Gordon Brown.