Do you think that this is good Police PR?

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I have a 50-year-old brother who drives a motorcycle into London every day to work. A couple of months back he is happily driving home on the A2 at 7 pm when in his words “I woke up laying on my back in the road, I don’t remember anything else until I came round in Dartford hospital having had my shattered right hand screwed and plated back together”

The police arranged for the bike to be removed. They never went near him to interview him or to tell him where the bike was being stored. In fact I went to a couple of police stations and finally found the bike in Swanley.

So you can imagine his surprise when he recently received a summons from the police to appear before the beak for failing to produce his documents. He duly phoned the fuzz to say he had never been given any bits of paper to produce anything and anyway his licence, insurance and MOT was in his biker’s jacket!
He asked when this bit of paper (I think they call it a HOT1, or something similar) was issued, only to be told that the officer had issued it in the back of the ambulance.

The interesting thing is he was unconscious and had a shattered right hand and he’s right handed which would have made signing a bit of paper somewhat difficult on both counts!!

The upshot is, he has applied for the records from both the ambulance service and the hospital and also contacted a solicitor who rubbed his hands together and said, “they have got to be joking, and I smell compo here”.

Do you think that this is good PR for our over burdened police force or is it just another case of pursuing the motorist?

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Once when I was a student, I needed a permit to drive a minibus and had to send my licence off to DVLA. Whilst it was away, I was asked to produce my documents after being involved in an accident. (A motorcyclist rode into the side of my stationary car.) When I said that my licence was away, the police said they weren't interested. I went to the police station to be told to go away until the five days had elapsed when I would have therefore committed an offence, and they would then take a statement.

Fortunately I was in the AA at the time and the AA legal department wrote a quick letter, upon which the police had a complete and instant change of heart and attitude...
 

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Some cops are shits.
I was an ambulance man many moons ago and a young cop at the local Police Station made friends and influenced people by going round the POLICE car park and reporting back to the car owners on their tyre tread depths and how long their tax had to run. He even told one colleague that he should not leave the car park until he changed a tyre.
Some cops are sensible, but it's difficult spotting them.
 

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What has got into some people this is not the place for somebodys brother to post a grievance against the Police. There are proper channels for complaints against the police and YBW is not it.

Lets stick to boats

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Few weeks back whilst I was away someone lost control of their car and demolished our garden wall. Police turned up and took various details, made an arrest but never left us any details of the driver. I went to the local station and was told they couldn't give me the details - data protection, etc - and I needed to fill in various forms and wait for a letter. I thought they were legally obliged to get and exchange details when attending the scene of an accident.

On a happier note I was speaking to a copper recently who told me of an event near the end of a shift where he stopped and breathalysed a driver who failed the test. Seeing that his vehicle was his business (tools etc. in the back) he gave him a good talking to, checked he had spare keys at home, dropped his keys in the nearest drain and sent him on his way.
 
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Welcome to the forum Sonic.

Like a yacht club bar, the scuttlebutt forum is not limited to nautical topics - hence the NB (non-boaty) indicator.
 

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If you dont like this non boaty thread then why not choose from one of the hundreds of boaty threads.On the subject of Police, who promoted you to forum policeman? /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
 

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Re: Theres good and bad in all professions.

A few years ago someones car got locked in a car park near my Fathers house(No sign to say when the gate would be padlocked).

Knowing it would be vandalised or burned out over night my Dad tried to help the guy get in touch with the idiot who locked the gate.

Failing in that he contacted a policeman he new personally who came over and assesed the situation.His suggestion was give me a chance to be elsewhere and burn the lock off knowing that my father had the means to do it.Common sense off the highest order in my opinion.
 

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I've faced so many trumped up charges by police, you would not believe. Done for failing to take a road side breath test , when not had a drink, even though I stood there saying, yes I'll take your test, but why have you stopped me, three times I said yes, then he arrested me. He had not got a breath thingy in his hand. Maybe did'nt have one at all. Latter came along a summons for failing to stop. Well he was parked behind me and only a couple of hundred yards from where he followed me. How come I failed to stop. Cost all told about £1300 about 12 years ago.

Another time I got a produce thingy. Took all to police station, but inadvertantly my bookkeeper had kept all the old insurance docs. So I took last years, or maybe the year before. OK I said, I'll bring the new one in half an hour. Duely arrived with ins doc. Oh your to late, tuther plod has sent it for court pros!! So spent a day waiting my turn in court. Finally they asked if I had any evidence, so I calmly passed the insurance. Judge passed it back and forth, each clerk shaking his head. So he passed it back again, but still they could find nothing wrong with it. Then he mumbled, next case. No not guilty, or sorry. Nothing, I was still stood there in the dock when the next defendant arrived.

Another time I got a stollen car thief, along with guns and drugs. Long story. But I gave the police my whole bunch of keys, in the rush to open the car, home, work, various cars big bunch of keys. Went to station the nexd day to collect them.... F*** Off he said. I cant stand thieves, but neither the police.......Hope this helps!!!
 

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You are forgiven!

Harry

With a total of 16 posts and admitting to living north of the border.

"I forgive you for such an outburst"

The fact that I marked the post nb gave you the opportunity not to read it.

You should really try to understand what scuttlebutt is about and what nb means!!!

Should you require further evidence of nb posts from those that hail from north of the border, may I suggest you look at a few posts from me mates Jimi and Claymore?

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Compo.COMPO.compo luverly freeeeeeeeeeeeee compo.

Err,who actually pays the COMPO,why you and me. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 

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Do you think that this is good PR for our over burdened police force or is it just another case of pursuing the motorist?

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Of course it's not good PR.
Things like this should never happen; somebody hasn't been doing his job properly. Too many of our police think that they are above the law, which is why they are now held in such low esteem.
 

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Exactly

Fred
That was my point, brother ends up minus 1 bike, 2 months off work, plated & screwed wrist and despite having driving licence, insurance and MOT. Plod wants to go to war over a small piece of paper causing un-necessary expense which may well mean that we have to pay the compo?

Sometimes I have to wonder at the supidity of some of our so-called leaders, whether they be in government or as in this case the police force.

Would it really have been out of the question for someone to say "OK guys the next time we're passing lets go and see if he's got the docs"? /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Or even lets phone the guy and ask him if he would kindly like to produce the docs at his convenience.
 

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Do you think that this is good PR for our over burdened police force or is it just another case of pursuing the motorist?

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Of course it's not good PR.
Things like this should never happen; somebody hasn't been doing his job properly. Too many of our police think that they are above the law, which is why they are now held in such low esteem.

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What makes you think that the police are interested in PR? Or what we think of them?
 
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