Deben pronunciation - Deeban or Debben?

Many pilot books say it's a contraction of

the deep one - deep'un

In which case the debben pronunciation wouldn't make sense...

For outside this forum - we should adopt "Debben; but you really pronounce it Devon... just head a little further south, why don't you?"
 
Marmalade said:
Many pilot books say it's a contraction of

the deep one - deep'un

In which case the debben pronunciation wouldn't make sense...

For outside this forum - we should adopt "Debben; but you really pronounce it Devon... just head a little further south, why don't you?"
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Its source is in fact Debenham Suffolk. Yer pilot book is talkin bollix ;):D
 
Best mispronunciation I heard was a chap who kept saying Debden.

Did not have the courage to say anything.

He was on a sailing course on the Sigma Brigantia from Bradwell.

When I asked him where he came from he said Loughton.

I think he liked the entrance.
 
Aren't villages (hamlets) normally named for rivers rather than the other way around - ie Debenham = the ham(let) on the Deben... similarly eg Chelmsford - the ford across the Chelmer etc.

I speak from no real knowledge (as you no doubt have gathered!)
 
LONG_KEELER said:
the Sigma Brigantia from Bradwell..
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I think you'll find that's Brigantes, (owned by Essex County Council apparently) not Brigantia - I made as sure as sure could be made that there were no other Brigantias around on the East Coast when I picked the name

Strictly speaking they have to worship us :D (Brigantia was the goddess of the Brigantes)

Mind you, I can't help but be curious as to why a boat owned by Essex CC and operating in the waters of the Thames estuary is named after a tribe that was based some 200 miles to the North!?
 
sailorman said:
Its source is in fact Debenham Suffolk. Yer pilot book is talkin bollix ;):D
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"The Anglo-Saxons made one of their first settlements well inland away from the coast at a deep ham or home, we now call Debenham, where the river rises. "Deep" evidently referred to the steep sides of the valley and not to the depth of water because our river is a shallow one. so the river came to be known as 'the Deep one' or Deben just as the Black Deeps or Lynn Deeps are called the Deeps today."

Suffolk Estuary - the story of the River Deben, W G Arnott. Likely previous name is possibly the Colne or Adurnus.
 
That all makes sense and explains the "deep one" reference that I'd read as well as the Debenham link. I love it that we are surrounded by people who actually know stuff!!
 
tillergirl said:
"The Anglo-Saxons made one of their first settlements well inland away from the coast at a deep ham or home, we now call Debenham, where the river rises. "Deep" evidently referred to the steep sides of the valley and not to the depth of water because our river is a shallow one. so the river came to be known as 'the Deep one' or Deben just as the Black Deeps or Lynn Deeps are called the Deeps today."

Suffolk Estuary - the story of the River Deben, W G Arnott. Likely previous name is possibly the Colne or Adurnus.
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i will re-read the book
 
Brigantia said:
I think you'll find that's Brigantes, (owned by Essex County Council apparently) not Brigantia - I made as sure as sure could be made that there were no other Brigantias around on the East Coast when I picked the name

Strictly speaking they have to worship us :D (Brigantia was the goddess of the Brigantes)

Mind you, I can't help but be curious as to why a boat owned by Essex CC and operating in the waters of the Thames estuary is named after a tribe that was based some 200 miles to the North!?
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Ah yes Brigantes. I expect it has introduced many people to sailing.

Always liked the boat too.

The chap I was talking to from Loughton was having an internal struggle as to whether to cash in his ISA's and buy a boat or not.
 
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