Deben and Ore entrances - update

[Cantata]

The buoyage for the Ore entrance is in place, with little change from last year.
We will publish the Imray chartlet for the Ore entrance on the ECP website soon, possibly this evening.

The Deben entrance buoys have yet to be laid by Trinity House. We all hope it will be done in time for the Easter weekend, it needs a settled calm day for the job to be done.
We have the chartlet for this entrance too but think it best that we wait until the buoys are in place before publishing it. In the meantime, the request remains in place that anyone
wishing to trransit the entrance should speak to John White first.

Edit - update lunchtime Monday, it seems that at least some of the work may be in progress today.

 

[RivalRedwing]

I am minded that they had to have two attempts at positioning the Deben buoys last year...

 

[Johnah]

Well it's all happening at the ranch with the Deben entrance buoys now re-positioned in the Fisherman's Swatch (John White's description) with boats coming in and out. No problems so far. As you can see the Knolls are covered close to HW.

On the top photo there is the Deben SH Buoy and the Knoll Spit PH Buoy acting as a gate. Then the West Knoll PH buoy is further out and in the distance the Mid Knoll SH Buoy, hopefully at the end of the shallow section.

I will get better photos and a video later.

John

 

[Leighb]

Interesting to see, more or less back to how it was years ago when the metes were
positioned on the shore to give a transit to enter. The first copy of East Coast Rivers that I owned showed these. I did not have a cruising boat back then though.

 

[johnalison]

Interesting to see, more or less back to how it was years ago when the metes were
positioned on the shore to give a transit to enter. The first copy of East Coast Rivers that I owned showed these. I did not have a cruising boat back then though.

We used to use the metes in the ‘70s. They give much more confidence than when using the buoys, though you get a crick in the neck when going the other way.

 

[Cantata]

And we’ve heard the buoys have been laid. We’ll aim to get the chartlets onto the website this evening, I’ll post again here when they’re done.

 

[Cantata]

And we have posted the new Deben entrance chartlet and advice note on the ECP website, at Downloads | ECP
We will add the new Ore entrance chartlet to the website tomorrow, all being well.
Enjoy!

 

[Slowboat35]

What were 'the metes'? Some sort of leading marks?
And huge thanks for the trouble people take to publish and promulgate this vital info.

 

[LittleSister]

. . . buoys now re-positioned in the Fisherman's Swatch (John White's description)

I'm sticking with The Northwest Passage!

 

[johnalison]

What were 'the metes'? Some sort of leading marks?
And huge thanks for the trouble people take to publish and promulgate this vital info.

If there is a difference between metes and leading marks I don’t know it. For some reason the Bawdsey ones were always called metes. Great photos.

 

[Cantata]

The new chartlet for the Ore entrance is also now on our website.

 

[MikeBz]

It would be very useful to know what the min depth is between West Knoll and Knoll Spit.

 

[Johnah]

The main photo is on the ECP chartlet, here are a couple of additional Ore entrance photos taken yesterday.

Photos taken at LW - 1m above CD

 

[Johnah]

Regarding the new Deben entrance, maybe the first thing to do is to see how the new buoy positions relate to the new channel.

This is a photo I took in February at close to CD showing the narrow gap between the knolls. Hopefully the Knoll Spit Buoy PHB and the Deben SHB are accurately marking this gate.

 

[Johnah]

This is a photo taken a couple of weeks ago looking the other way out to sea down the new channel. There is a long spit on the North (left hand) side.

 

[Johnah]

A short video of the Ore entrance at LW (1m above CD) taken yesterday. Apologies it's a bit bumpy due to the fresh offshore wind.

Ore entrance March 27th 2023 LW

 

[nigelm]

Hopefully Navionics will catch up with this soon

 

[Cantata]

Hopefully Navionics will catch up with this soon

I would never trust Navionics in this sort of situation!

 

[Leighb]

Def Mk I eyeball and the latest local chart. Fortunately or unfortunately we won’t be doing that anymore.

 

[MikeBz]

I would never trust Navionics in this sort of situation!

It does have the new buoy positions already, if not the knolls themselves. If the buoy positions are correct then it could be useful to double check your COG (no I don’t mean centre of gravity!).