Dear Mr. Paul Jeffes and YM team.....

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After reading this months YM, I feel I have to write to ask the following.

In the cons of your new boat test for the leopard 40 you have written capsize risk.

For balance in future monohull reviews especially Bavaria will you be writing risk of losing keel and sinking, or risk of slipping overboard when heeled. Even, risk of rudder bearings failing and complete loss of steering.

No, I thought not, so why do you feel the need to add this comment, it has been shown over and again the risks are minimal and the risks of losing a keel are even possibly higher. Why are you so afraid of striking out and saying great boat great sea keeping, did she capsize during your trials, did she?

How on earth can you make this comment, have you ever capsized a cruising multi, yes or no?

Ok, you wrote a little addendum in the corner sort of negating the risk, but why put it in the first place. It is misguided comments like this that load insurance premiums, I know of two companies who will not insure multihulls, yet I bet they still insure Bavaria's with the risk of keel loss.

Come on YM, get out of 1960 and stop being so blo<font color="black">ody</font> biased.
 
But they do

There is a particular cat designer. He has one of the larger of the cats he has designed.
He lived in one hull with his secretary and his wife lived in the other hull.
The arrangement apparently works quite well.

Iain
 
Re: But they do

James Wharram of course had two 'wives'. Failure to follow his example is your problem, not the boat's /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Re: But they do

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He lived in one hull with his secretary and his wife lived in the other hull.
The arrangement apparently works quite well.

Iain

[/ QUOTE ]One Hull in East Yorkshire, the other in New England.
 
Well said, Woofy. The prejudice is unfounded.
I'm a couple of years into this cat thing, and become more and more impressed as time goes on. Space, pace and safety. OK, so the "pace" bit isn't always the case, but then so many monos don't sail all that well on certain points. The space is incredible. How many 37 footers have a saloon that can sit 12 in comfort? Have a chart table that can take a full-size adimrality chart? A galley that can at least two can work in? I think my kids would be shocked if we went back to a mono, and they cetainly would not have the freedom to wander the decks at sea that the cat affords. I've read all sorts of stuff, and tried as much as possible to research the boat, and stories of capsize, sinking or other disasters are uncommon to say the least. My received prejudice is gradually waning.
I do miss shouting, "Tack the galley!" though. I make up for that loss by marching up and down on the after-deck, hand clasped behind my back. We buzzed Drum in Kilchattan Bay last year like this, went up close for a look while they ate lunch, tacked and zoomed off. Nine knots all the way, kids waving from the foredeck, me marching up and down throughout the tack. Maybe I need a brass-bound telescope and a big tri-corn hat.

Alistair
 
Ken

I would have thought that a man with your wisdom would have known that there are only three types of boat; a cat, half a cat and a cat and a half.

And surely you will have also realised that if it's not a cat, it's a dog.
 
No not yet - probably asking far too much for the old mutt
 
I know a man. Built his cat and named it Dual. Registered port Hull. (get it?)

It bobs around the Turkish coast. Prout 31 I think. Barry and Debbie if you see them.
 
There are a couple of cruising cats (about 30 footers )knocking around the Bristol Channel with large floats fixed to the mast head.

The only capsized multihull I have ever seen was a tri which was being pushed hard and the leaking deck hatch in the leeward float had allowed it to fill up.It floated 90°to the usual the lifeboat used its rubber dinghy to gently lift off the crew one at a time Then towed it virtually undamaged into harbour about 5 miles away.

If I owned a tri it would have a bilge alarm in all 3 hulls.
 
Bigamy is where a man has one wife too many. There are those who say that monogamy is much the same thing. (not me, of course).

To be serious, I fully support Woofy's plea, even though I am not a cat fan. There are rarely any serious negative comments about the boats tested, only occasional minor ones. So to make the point about a risk of capsize is breaking with tradition, somewhat.

I would prefer to see more negative comments on all tests, to give make them more 'real'.
 
I realise YM staff do not look in here every day, but I would like an answer to this one. Please tell me why the need for such knee jerk statements.

On PBO there is an account of another sinking mono (Hanse) from a failed rudder, will you tar all Hanse now with sinking risk.

Sorry to goad, but I am fed up of this, especially from a yachting magazine that is supposed to support British yachting. When one of the last large scale British manufacturers of yachts are hanging on (Broadblue) you make outlandish statements that will scare punters off.
 
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