Dead seahorse ... time to ban seaweed?

XDC said:
Don’t animals sometimes just die and if so how will making a place an MCZ stop that process?

https://www.countypress.co.uk/news/...-seahorse-found-at-isle-of-wight-beach-clean/
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Yup all animals die at sometime and stage of their lifes even us :
All environmental charities want the greatest protection for a certain area , its their remit , and they are not demanding it they are just saying it would be good to have.
There is always some tension between conservation and the ability as Humans to enjoy the outdoors, a balance and a healthy respect for the Planet will help heal some damage already done.
 
FlyingGoose said:
Yup all animals die at sometime and stage of their lifes even us :
All environmental charities want the greatest protection for a certain area , its their remit , and they are not demanding it they are just saying it would be good to have.
There is always some tension between conservation and the ability as Humans to enjoy the outdoors, a balance and a healthy respect for the Planet will help heal some damage already done.
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No. Some of them are demanding it, and resorting to some pretty underhand methods to get their way. Bias, deception and lousy science is rampant. Balance isnt even in the vocabulary. Empire building most certainly is, and the environment is suffering because of it.
 
oldharry said:
No. Some of them are demanding it, and resorting to some pretty underhand methods to get their way. Bias, deception and lousy science is rampant. Balance isnt even in the vocabulary. Empire building most certainly is, and the environment is suffering because of it.
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Well I suppose you could argue that some conservation charities are a little militant :D , but there are many charities that have done amazing work throughout the planet , the WWF for one, local issues will always polarize a community and create tension , hence why I said above a balance is needed , with good evidence based science and a community willing to understand the effects of climate change and local erosion of their flora and fauna.
We are only a blip on time on this planet , therefore in my opinion we need to hopefully pass on a planet worth living in .
Im afraid conservation issues will always cause problems in the UK as we are a small island country with a large population of people who live and work and visit the coast and tensions and issues will become heated , strong heads and good communication is essential to find a compromise for all .:encouragement:
 
Totally agree with you FG but really can’t understand why one dead animal leads to a call for greater protection.

From what?

And what has seaweed got to do with it?

A really bizarre article and reaction.
 
XDC said:
Totally agree with you FG but really can’t understand why one dead animal leads to a call for greater protection.

From what?

And what has seaweed got to do with it?

A really bizarre article and reaction.
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The poor creature was tangled in the stuff, rather like turtles in discarded plastic waste
 
Is Steve Treehuggerwallah still trying to ban anchoring in Studland Bay or has he got a proper job?
 
XDC said:
Totally agree with you FG but really can’t understand why one dead animal leads to a call for greater protection.

From what?

And what has seaweed got to do with it?

A really bizarre article and reaction.
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No I also agree sorry if that was not getting across one dead Seahorse does not constitute a problem, I agree that people in Conservation can lets say make up things to enhance their purpose :ambivalence:
The article does seem to not make much sense .
 
XDC said:
Totally agree with you FG but really can’t understand why one dead animal leads to a call for greater protection.

From what?

And what has seaweed got to do with it?

A really bizarre article and reaction.
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I guess that finding a seahorse, dead or alive indicates their presence in the area, thus prompting a stricter protection.
I would also guess that the seaweed is just a bit of artistic colour. "dead seahorse tangled in seaweed" is a tad more exciting than "dead seahorse fond on its side"
 
The Times today (Friday 2019-04-19) carried a minor article on pg4. "Dead Seahorses Puzzle": "Unusually high numbers of dead seahorses are washing up on the Jurassic Coast in Dorset. The cause is unclear, and for years sightings of the creatures have dwindled. There have been suggestions that the mooring of too many boats is a threat to their habitat, seagrass. Seahorses are protected, but seagrass is not."

Make of that what you will... I did consider a letter to the editor, but have a lot of other things on my plate at present. None of them is a seahorse!
 
NGM complaining earlier today on his Facebook site that Dorset Wildlife Trust have said that Seahorse populations in the area are healthy. He is unhappy because 4 of them have died, so how can they be healthy? He also complains that DWT wont play with him either on seahorses or over the 'scandal' of the oil rig. His National Seahorse Database apparently contradicts DWTs recent statement. I say 'apparently' because its secret, and he will not show it to anybody, although his Trust Deed requires him to 'inform and educate the public' of marine species!

The reality seems to be they are quite common, but very rarely seen because they are small, live mostly in deeper water, and are masters of colour changing camouflage making them almost impossible to spot on the seabed. SHT statistics are composed of entirely random sightings reported by his 2000 or so supporters around UK. DWT on the other hand systematically research marine species in their 'patch' and produce reliably and professionally researched statistics.
 
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