Damn - lost my anchor and a bit of dignity

Markhammond

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Well it had to happen... A summer of fun cruising with no real incidents but then I decide to use the anchor.

The first time the chain gypsy on the windlass had worked itself loose so wasn't tight enough to pull the chain in. After 45 minutes of blood, sweat and tears I finally worked out what was wrong, improvised using some tools and managed to tighten it enough to get the damn thing in. Being the optomist I viewed this as a learning experience and I thought to myself at least I had used the anchor and windlass and now knew more about how it operated. So what could go wrong in the future?

Well.... along comes a cruise with my father. I'm keen to impress him as well as have a good bit of father son bonding. We blasted up to the Burlington Gap and all was good. It was relatively calm, the boat handled beautifully and we were both having a whale of a time. Then we decided to stop for a brew before we headed back as the weather was starting to look pretty dicey in the distance. Down goes the anchor, out comes the tea.

All good so far, but then we try to leave.

Once again the chain slipped, but this time it created a knot in the chain which snagged in the gypsy. Keeping calm I thought to myself "you've been here before - so you can sort this out" I decide to unbolt the gypsy to untangle the snag, feed through some chain, and then simply reattach the gypsy and we can be on our way.

All good so far (and no blood).

But as we try and get enough slack on the chain to feed it through the gypsy again the weather starts to turn rough.

So I'm knee deep in the chain locker, my dad's at the helm. I shout over "Can you reverse the boat a bit to create some slack?". "No problem" comes his response. Back we go so I shout "Cheers, can you throw it into neutral now?" "All done" come's his reply. At least thats what I thought had happened, but he'd actually put into forward albeit slowly. So I'm head down in the anchor locker trying to re-feed the chain over the gypsy and through the windlass when I feel the strain on the chain increase. "Are you sure its in neutral?" I shout. "Yep" comes the reply. This continues for a couple of minutes and I struggle to hold onto the slack on the chain.

Then there's a bang - the chain snags again but this time snaps off the feeder loop on the windlass. I just had time to release the chain and then it is flying in between my legs before playing itself out and jerking the boat to one side. I shout to my dad "are you sure its in neutral?". And again "yep' is the reply.

The chain is still straining so I stop trying to pull it in to get some slack and decide to go and have a look for myself when - snap - the nylon cord/strap securing the chain to the hull snaps. At this point any future plans of increasing my family flash before my eyes as the nylon cord and the remaining chain whip around the anchor locker, fly between my legs before heading along with the anchor to the bottom of the channel!

So one minute I appear to be an able seaman, the next a complete novice who nearly became a eunuch who now needs to try replace what I've lost - (anchor, chain and my dignity!).

So any help would be welcome. I'm looking for a Lewmar delta anchor (I think 10kg as my boat is just under 30 foot), some chain probably 30-40 meters (does that sound enough?), and replacement nylon cord/strap to secure this all back to the hull of my boat (which I've looked for on the web but I can't seem to find anything like it). Is there anything else I need, are there particular bolts I need to fasten the anchor to the chain et.

Obviously, replacing my dignity is beyond anyone's help.....
 
Nasty incident Mark, but at least the ground tackle was the only tackle you lost. Have you looked at the For Sale site on the forum? They sometimes have this sort of stuff.
 
Was the boat in neutral or are you looking for another father as well !
Regards
MM1.
 
No it wasn't in neutral but I am a very understanding and forgiving son. And he bought the beers when we got back to shore so can't grumble too much.

Was the boat in neutral or are you looking for another father as well !
Regards
MM1.
 
Nasty incident Mark, but at least the ground tackle was the only tackle you lost. Have you looked at the For Sale site on the forum? They sometimes have this sort of stuff.

Hi Mark,

I am advertising the following in the For Sale site (page 5) on this forum, if this would be of interest to you?

10m x 8mm galvanised anchor chain, spliced onto 29m x 14mm 3-strand nylon warp.

Cheers, AllanG
 
Perhaps you could get a grapnel anchor, a short bit of chain and some line and fish for your kit?

It sounds like it will be laid out in a nice straight line so if you drag a grapnel anchor across the path then it should snag on your kit and allow you to recover it.

I suggest you stick at the helm - or pick up a slightly more knowledgeable crew for this trip though ;)
 
Perhaps you could get a grapnel anchor, a short bit of chain and some line and fish for your kit?

It sounds like it will be laid out in a nice straight line so if you drag a grapnel anchor across the path then it should snag on your kit and allow you to recover it.

I suggest you stick at the helm - or pick up a slightly more knowledgeable crew for this trip though ;)

Good suggestion. To the OP - how deep was it where you lost your gear? Did you waypoint it?
 
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I shout over "Can you reverse the boat a bit to create some slack?".

Hi Mark

I sympathise wit your plight on this one- can be quite a potentially dangerous situation with chain under tension- I had a similar thing when my gypsy failed and I had to haul in by hand in a heaving sea and would not want to ever do that again .


But just for my understanding why would you want a reverse motion?.....as when retrieving my anchor I ask for forward motion to give me slack chain as I am normally anchored in up to 8 knot tide coming onto the bow?
 
Mike - wind against tide? Had that quite a few times trying to drop our swinging mooring - reverse, take the tension off and then release the line.

I have hand hauled ~20m of 8mm chain when the windlass motor failed - it's a sit down job with a good helm - but then at 30hp our engine wasn't going to run away with anything ... ;)
 
Thanks Allan. I think my windlass only takes chain but this could be a good option for a back up. I'll give it some thought and drop you a PM if I want it.

Thanks for responding though.

Hi Mark,

I am advertising the following in the For Sale site (page 5) on this forum, if this would be of interest to you?

10m x 8mm galvanised anchor chain, spliced onto 29m x 14mm 3-strand nylon warp.

Cheers, AllanG
 
Good advice!!

Perhaps you could get a grapnel anchor, a short bit of chain and some line and fish for your kit?

It sounds like it will be laid out in a nice straight line so if you drag a grapnel anchor across the path then it should snag on your kit and allow you to recover it.

I suggest you stick at the helm - or pick up a slightly more knowledgeable crew for this trip though ;)
 
I'd originally power forward somewhat to easy the tension to help the windlass pull in the anchor, but by the time the boat the boat had moved around somewhat. I had repositioned just prior to the snagging and then ask the old man to take over at the helm while check out the anchor locker.

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I shout over "Can you reverse the boat a bit to create some slack?".

Hi Mark

I sympathise wit your plight on this one- can be quite a potentially dangerous situation with chain under tension- I had a similar thing when my gypsy failed and I had to haul in by hand in a heaving sea and would not want to ever do that again .


But just for my understanding why would you want a reverse motion?.....as when retrieving my anchor I ask for forward motion to give me slack chain as I am normally anchored in up to 8 knot tide coming onto the bow?
 
Good suggestion. To the OP - how deep was it where you lost your gear? Did you waypoint it?


Its a great idea actually - accept I didn't waypoint it (duh I hear you shout), so it looks like I'm still going to have to buy the replacement.

That's the great thing about boating - well certainly it is for me and part of the reason I took it up - you're always learning and picking up great tips.

Thanks all.
 
If you have tracking enabled on your chartplotter, there's a good chance you'll be able to see the spot you were spinning around trying to pull in the anchor...
 
Don't feel too bad about it.

In my early days, I chopped through the nylon part of the rode with my own ropecutter when I gave a burst of reverse to stop forward motion,

Despite the bar-room cynics, i did recover it by towing a grapnel behind a dinghy!
 
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