sailorman
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Cutty Sark on BBC 1 now
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Hoolie
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It's BBC2! BBC1 is Hustle.
SailorBill
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Don't I know it. The Mrs is sat next to me watching Hustle.
Boomshanka
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8 x 4 sheets of ply glued down for the weather deck
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I did learn something- the "wires" holding the masts up are called "standard" rigging!
Interesting to see the amount of new steel that went onto her, but looking at the corroded iron frames you could see why.
I still think that the glass surrounding her looks unfortunately like she is sitting in an enourmous bubble- the Great Britain solution seems much less intrusive.
Interesting to see the amount of new steel that went onto her, but looking at the corroded iron frames you could see why.
I still think that the glass surrounding her looks unfortunately like she is sitting in an enourmous bubble- the Great Britain solution seems much less intrusive.
Blue5
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Well I enjoyed it, worth watching on i-player if you missed it, see how much you get for a £55mil refit.........................
machurley22
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I enjoyed it too despite the standard rigging but I couldn't help thinking that you could probably have built a replica for less and then we'd be able to go sailing on it. I'd pay a few quid for that.
sailorman
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johnalison
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I thought that it was quite an informative and interesting programme within its hour slot. It was a pity that it wasn't in HD as that would have been worthwhile, even if it wouldn't have helped the lovely old photos shown.
A replica just isn't the same thing. I have been on the Cutty Sark as well as other historic vessels and always found them interesting but I was bored within a few minutes of going on the Batavia at Lelystad. I'm not especially sentimental about the Cutty Sark but believe she is worth preserving for her symbolic value alone. £50 million sounds rather a lot though.
A replica just isn't the same thing. I have been on the Cutty Sark as well as other historic vessels and always found them interesting but I was bored within a few minutes of going on the Batavia at Lelystad. I'm not especially sentimental about the Cutty Sark but believe she is worth preserving for her symbolic value alone. £50 million sounds rather a lot though.
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8 x 4 sheets of ply glued down for the weather deck
3 layers too- but the finish is 18 mm teak boards, with modern Sikaflex or similar caulking.
Nicholas123
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Very good comment,spot on.Maybe our yoof would be less likely to riot if they felt they were involved in something
Kukri
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They should not have done that - they should have relaid the decks authentically. They used plywood under decking in the 50's and it rotted. My own boat still has her 30's real teak decks. Poor show.
I wonder if they will now put the hatch wedges in the right way round? They had them banged in back to front - an insult to any British seaman - hatch cloths were in use into the 1980's and they only had to look at coasters in the river - before the restoration.
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sailorman
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it might have been done to add stiffening to the deck due to hoiking her up 10`in the air
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Kukri
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Blue5
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I thought they said that the decks were not original anyway, they had already been replaced and so they were not that bothered by the damage they sustained in the fire, presumably composite layers with the glue/resin they used will have less tendency to leak long term.
Kukri
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Such is not, in fact, the case. Please either trust me on that or spend a few hours reading the deck construction threads over at the Woodenboat forum. The type of deck that they have gone for is the most likely of all constructions to leak. I've only got forty years of wooden boat ownership behind me so I may be wrong but I don't think so.
18mm of wood is too thick to conform to the stable ply subdeck so it will move as the moisture content varies; this will inevitably destroy the bond to the subdeck. It may take thirty years, but it will happen. Once it happens, moisture will accumulate in the ply subdeck and the subdeck will rot.
My other objection given that the Cutty Sark people have wittered on about "originality" is that not only have they come up with a bad deck, they have come up with a fake one.
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Blue5
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It is not a ship that is going to sea any time soon it is a museum piece and I assume that the 50+ million spent conserving it would also have included some fees for Nautical Architects as to the best methods to achieve the objective which is probably different advice from constructing a deck for a sea going replica.
I think they have done a good job, they have retained as much as possible, conserved original items where possible, where not possible they have employed modern methods to clearly show the extent of the original structure remaining with new work beside it.
I will look forward to visiting it in the future.
madmitch
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I think £50m is peanuts compared to the billions we waste on one hand wringing cauze after another! Nice to see us doing something of value, lovely to see!
madmitch
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Isnt there another clipper in scotland possibly in a condition to be repared to sail again?
