NEPENTHE2
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I am considering crossing to Holland in the summer. Will the Dutch Authorities ask for an ICC?
Cruising to Holland
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Phoenix of Hamble
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No.... not unless your boat is very big, or very fast!...... not needed for vessels under 20m in length, or vessels capable of less than 17kts.
If my experience is anything to go by, then you'll not get asked for anything, let alone an ICC
If my experience is anything to go by, then you'll not get asked for anything, let alone an ICC
Boatman
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Agree with Magnacarter never been asked for anything
AliM
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I think the Dutch are checking boats a bit more than they used to, but probably for smuggling and illegal immigrants rather than ICCs. We were checked twice last year - once in IJmuiden marina and once at sea off Terschelling, but they were only interested in passports, crewlist and that we'd handed in our Schengen forms. We waved ship's papers + ICCs + VHF etc at them, but they weren't bothered. They were very efficient and polite, and spoke perfect English.
neale
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Yes they may, and they get a bit funny if you don't have one.
I wouldn't go without one and I would get the CEVNI on it as well if you are going inland.
I wouldn't go without one and I would get the CEVNI on it as well if you are going inland.
Bergman
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"Schengen forms"
Eh?
What are these, not come across them before
Eh?
What are these, not come across them before
Phoenix of Hamble
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Well you are completely contrary to RYA guidance there, and indeed all of the Dutch cruising guides, as well as the Almanac...... everywhere refers to no need for an ICC, and certainly not a CEVNI endorsement, unless you are over 20m or capable of going faster than 17kts...
And in response to Bergman's point above.... never been asked for a Schengen form either..... asked the port of entry last year (at Vlissingen) if they had one, and they looked at me as if I was nuts...... sum total of inspection was a guy leaning over the top of a lock, looking down 30 feet at us, and yelling "good trip?..... how many people on board?"........
And in response to Bergman's point above.... never been asked for a Schengen form either..... asked the port of entry last year (at Vlissingen) if they had one, and they looked at me as if I was nuts...... sum total of inspection was a guy leaning over the top of a lock, looking down 30 feet at us, and yelling "good trip?..... how many people on board?"........
DanTribe
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It seems to depend where you enter.
Vlissingen, Roompot & Hellevoetsluis don't want to know, even if you wave them under their nose.
I have however been checked on two occassions in Breskens. I think the havenmeester tips them off. It's no hassle really but two armed policemen come aboard for a chat & coffee, I think they like to get out of the office.
I was also checked at the Willemstad locks, but they just asked if I had registered the Schengen forms, didn't want to see any documents.
Nobody has yet mentioned the WaterAlmanaak, compulsory to carry and well worth it just for peace of mind. It's useful if trying to learn Dutch anyway.
Vlissingen, Roompot & Hellevoetsluis don't want to know, even if you wave them under their nose.
I have however been checked on two occassions in Breskens. I think the havenmeester tips them off. It's no hassle really but two armed policemen come aboard for a chat & coffee, I think they like to get out of the office.
I was also checked at the Willemstad locks, but they just asked if I had registered the Schengen forms, didn't want to see any documents.
Nobody has yet mentioned the WaterAlmanaak, compulsory to carry and well worth it just for peace of mind. It's useful if trying to learn Dutch anyway.
Phoenix of Hamble
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a good point about the WaterAlmanaak..... seems daft that you have to carry a book in a language that you don't speak, but the second volume with lock times is understandable without any Dutch knowledge...
Emjaytoo
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All very interesting stuff, especially as we shall be taking our new boat over to Vlissingen, then via the canal up to Veere, through the Veerse Meer to Delta Marina, Kortgene (her new permanent home) in June.
Magna Carta
I may want to pick your brains later on re an Ipswich Vlissingen crossing, if you would be so kind.
Magna Carta
I may want to pick your brains later on re an Ipswich Vlissingen crossing, if you would be so kind.
Phoenix of Hamble
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No problem... also have done the Vlissingen to Veerse Meer route... have a look at my blog for Aug 17th 2006, where I covered that route from Ipswich to Veere.... its a fabulous trip... the Veerse Meer is just wonderful....
If you would prefer to talk it through at any time, drop me a pm, and i'll pm you my tel number back....
If you would prefer to talk it through at any time, drop me a pm, and i'll pm you my tel number back....
alec
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Yes they may, and they get a bit funny if you don't have one.
I wouldn't go without one and I would get the CEVNI on it as well if you are going inland.
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Cannot understand this post. If you don't need it why would the authorities want it ?
Has something changed to make you say this ?
Yes they may, and they get a bit funny if you don't have one.
I wouldn't go without one and I would get the CEVNI on it as well if you are going inland.
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Cannot understand this post. If you don't need it why would the authorities want it ?
Has something changed to make you say this ?
johnalison
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Yes, and I believe the Waddensee counts as inland waters with regard to CEVNI.
sailorman
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all the Dutch want is Tourisum.
not TO NAIL boaters.
Bet Montgomery never had a ceveni or icc or the Bomber Crew Buried in Colijinsplat Cemetary /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
not TO NAIL boaters.
Bet Montgomery never had a ceveni or icc or the Bomber Crew Buried in Colijinsplat Cemetary /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Boatman
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Dutch reccommend that their sailors when travelling abroard have one although there is no licencing requirements as such.
I have been through IJmuiden 4 times over the last 18 months, delivering foreign boats and never been asked for anything.
If anyone needs more info I have sailing brother in law in holland and can find out details
I have been through IJmuiden 4 times over the last 18 months, delivering foreign boats and never been asked for anything.
If anyone needs more info I have sailing brother in law in holland and can find out details
EdWingfield
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What you believe? Facts please. I'm hoping to get there this July. In UK inland waters is non tidal stuff.
I have no quals and have never been asked to show any over a lifetime (Holland Denmark Germany Sweden France Spain UK, Rep Ireland)
Has something changed recently?
I have no quals and have never been asked to show any over a lifetime (Holland Denmark Germany Sweden France Spain UK, Rep Ireland)
Has something changed recently?
sailorman
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NO
just ill informed forumites /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
just ill informed forumites /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Phoenix of Hamble
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Second that..... they're not needed.
kengill
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We were boarded at the roompot last year and they took half an hour to check our papers even down to checking each individual page in our passports.
They only stopped , after saying they were going to fine us €500 if we could not show them pre-completed shengen forms, when we gave them our pre-completed schengen form.
Its not worth forgetting it!!
They only stopped , after saying they were going to fine us €500 if we could not show them pre-completed shengen forms, when we gave them our pre-completed schengen form.
Its not worth forgetting it!!
