gm4caq
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Tom Cunliffe says in his article on the cruising chute that to successfully deploy you need a halliard above your forestay. What happens with masthead rigged boats? Cant' they use cruising chutes?
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Cruising Chute Article
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alldownwind
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Yes.
Just the same as they can deploy spinnakers.
Generally the spi halliard emerges from a slot below the masthead, travels on upwards outside the mast and through a block that is dangling from the plate that covers the top of the mast. Above the forestay.
Just the same as they can deploy spinnakers.
Generally the spi halliard emerges from a slot below the masthead, travels on upwards outside the mast and through a block that is dangling from the plate that covers the top of the mast. Above the forestay.
gm4caq
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Yes.
Just the same as they can deploy spinnakers.
Generally the spi halliard emerges from a slot below the masthead, travels on upwards outside the mast and through a block that is dangling from the plate that covers the top of the mast. Above the forestay.
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Sorry to be pedantic but as the forestay attaches to that same plate then the block will lie alongside the forestay rather than be above it?
To be above it and avoid chafe or wrap which seems to be the concern expressed in the article, surely the rig must be fractional?
Regards
Bob
Yes.
Just the same as they can deploy spinnakers.
Generally the spi halliard emerges from a slot below the masthead, travels on upwards outside the mast and through a block that is dangling from the plate that covers the top of the mast. Above the forestay.
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Sorry to be pedantic but as the forestay attaches to that same plate then the block will lie alongside the forestay rather than be above it?
To be above it and avoid chafe or wrap which seems to be the concern expressed in the article, surely the rig must be fractional?
Regards
Bob
awol
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Ok, I'll try. On my boat the forestay attaches to the mast top-plate very close to the mast. The spinnaker halyard block is at the front of the plate, outboard of the forestay attachment. Thus the spinnaker flies outboard of the forestay.
Spars
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As one who uses both chute & kite on my masthead rig, the plate on mine does set the halyards just above the jib, just, because the plate moves the pullies forward but I am able to set them, it is close and it takes a little studying at first, probably not too good for racing.
Kylora
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You should be able to see the spinnaker block, with green halyard, which is ( just ) above and forward of the forestay.....
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gm4caq
Active Member
Ok,
So there is a few inches of difference, and the sense I am getting is that a few inches gap is enough to avoid a problem.
I don't race so speed of deployment is not an issue.
Just that if I buy a cruising chute and snuffer I don't want to damage my foresail with chafe from a snuffer mouth, But maybe its all in the fine tuning, and it will fly clear.
Thanks for the comments folks.
Merry Christmas
So there is a few inches of difference, and the sense I am getting is that a few inches gap is enough to avoid a problem.
I don't race so speed of deployment is not an issue.
Just that if I buy a cruising chute and snuffer I don't want to damage my foresail with chafe from a snuffer mouth, But maybe its all in the fine tuning, and it will fly clear.
Thanks for the comments folks.
Merry Christmas
MoodySabre
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The chute flies forward so all is clear of the furled headsail
vyv_cox
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You may be confusing the problem. Forestay damage may occur with a furling foresail when the halyard lead is at too acute an angle and it wraps around the forestay when the sail is furled. Since a cruising chute doesn't furl the problem cannot occur.
As others say, the spinnaker halyard is well forward of the forestay anyway, so that's another reason why damage won't occur. Plus, with a cruising chute, the luff will have a big curl in it, so it won't wrap anyway, unless you are very careless/unlucky. I fly a ghoster, which is like a cruising chute with a strong luff rope, winched up tight in use. This also uses the spinnaker halyard, with the foot around the bow roller. There is just room to get the sheets between the ghoster and genoa forestays when tacking. I would normally drop the ghoster before unfurling the genoa, and vice-versa, so wraps are not possible.
As others say, the spinnaker halyard is well forward of the forestay anyway, so that's another reason why damage won't occur. Plus, with a cruising chute, the luff will have a big curl in it, so it won't wrap anyway, unless you are very careless/unlucky. I fly a ghoster, which is like a cruising chute with a strong luff rope, winched up tight in use. This also uses the spinnaker halyard, with the foot around the bow roller. There is just room to get the sheets between the ghoster and genoa forestays when tacking. I would normally drop the ghoster before unfurling the genoa, and vice-versa, so wraps are not possible.