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Anyone up to speed in meteorology?

I have been trying to get to grips with Coriolis for weeks and have probably made some progress. However when I really try to understand what actually makes a sea breeze veer I am back to the drawing board.

Understanding this subject is not helped by apparently contradictory information. I have a book Weather at Sea, produced in consultation with the RYA which states "eastward and westward air is also subject to a deflection"

Whereas Bowditch page 1136 "A body experiences Coriolis acceleration when it travels over a rotating surface in a direction perpendicular to the axis of rotation"

The Bowditch theory confirms my fragile understanding of Coriolis.

Any experts out there?

MINESAPINT. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
Further to my original post. I do believe there must be a change of latitude for Coriolis to have any effect????

MINESAPINT.
 
To be strictly accurate, coriolis force results from a mass changing its distance from the axis of rotation. It's a development of the conservation of momentum so if a mass moves further from the axis its velocity along the direction of rotation must decrease in order to keep momentum (mass x velocity) constant.

In the UK, a mass of air travelling South and/or rising will accelerate Westwards. Falling or Northbound air will accelerate Eastwards.

Any help?
 
Does this help?
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Coriolis force( Fc = 2v*omega) is pseudo force (like inertia or centrifugal force) and can be calculated in Force vector diagram. It is caused by Earth rotation.
In meteorology Coriolis is oposite force to Gradient force ( pressure difference).This 2 forces caused rotation of air in Cyklone making spyral rotation.
Same is in wave theory: Sea currents (deep waves) are directly resultated by Coriolis force .But.... to explain this above need to study few books.
 
You could be getting your Coriolis mixed up with your 'land and sea breeze' effect (land heats up during day and draws sea air in and so forth) - or referring to a combination of the two. - precession forces and changes of pressure affected by temperature.
 
good link here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_effect

why do you need this much detail about it, is it a pub question or are you doing a met or nautical science degree ....
the only time I have seen the theory used in practice (apart from school to explain the rotation of weather systems etc...) is to pre-determine the direction of a current deep down (off the continental shelf) - as it also is influenced by coriolis and the ekeman spiral ....
 
good link here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_effect

why do you need this much detail about it, is it a pub question or are you doing a met or nautical science degree .... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
the only time I have seen the theory used in practice (apart from scholastic circles to explain the rotation of weather systems etc...) is to pre-determine the direction of a current deep down (off the continental shelf) - as the water column flow is also influenced by coriolis and the ekeman spiral ....
and from memory it also has an input into the theory needed to dampen a gyro to make it north facing ......... but that was too many years ago .......
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mmmm - if you have a quick look at the link above ..... ahem .... you may just change your mind /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
Too hot for all that brain activity required to really think about it, I had rather go and put another sausage on the BBQ /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
very apt and amusing ..... but I am duty cook tonight and the memsahib is not pleased I am 'playing' with my laptop for such a long time (reading your attachment) when I am supposed to be sweating in the kitchen /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif ..... oops gotta go for a few mins /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
A real quick and dirty way to think of it (in the Northern Hemisphere) is to remember that moving air "wants" to turn to the right. The faster it moves, the greater the effect.

From that rule of thumb you can deduce circulation around a low, for example, or which way the sea breeze will swing as it builds up.

Tony S
 
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very apt and amusing ..... but I am duty cook tonight and the memsahib is not pleased I am 'playing' with my laptop for such a long time (reading your attachment) when I am supposed to be sweating in the kitchen /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif ..... oops gotta go for a few mins /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]Hey-up! Doing the washup... great opportunity to check out the 'facts' about coriolis??? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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