cooking with endeavour.

[viago]

i was chatting to my boy who had flown to brisbane from perth to do his exams and practical to get regitsered as a sparky in oz.

having done that ve visited the maritime museum there and was very impressed.


he told me about this 16 yo lass whe circumnavigeted non stop. they had her boat.

i've no idea how i know nothing about her but she smashed records.

anyway, we got chatting and i suggested that it would be great for oz to have a perfect working replica of cook's ship. i was pretty sure the plans must exist stil.

he agreed with me adding reveue streams i hadn't thought of. i'm no slouch in that department myself.

anyway, i looked it up on wiki and i fould the construction very interesting considerind her achievements.

it was flat bottommed to take the ground for repairs and for decent cartography.

HMS Endeavour - Wikipedia

it certainly makes interesting reading.

what really interested me was the debate about the height of her masts.

it seems the were shorter than naval standard and modern thinking suggests that's wrong nd they would have been naval standard.

i'm no naval architect but i think that seeing as she was flat bottomed the masts would certainly have had to be shorter.

i'd very much like to hear what other more knowledgeable forumites think on this matter.

i'm pretty sure leo of 'tally ho' fame has all the contacts needed to rebuild endeavor.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

The Whitby Endeavour — The Whitby Endeavour

 

[johnalison]

According to my paper today the wreck of the Endeavour has been found off the US.

 

[newtothis]

anyway, we got chatting and i suggested that it would be great for oz to have a perfect working replica of cook's ship. i was pretty sure the plans must exist stil.

he agreed with me adding reveue streams i hadn't thought of. i'm no slouch in that department myself.

Think someone has pipped you to the post with that business plan.

Aboard Endeavour

 

[ylop]

i've no idea how i know nothing about her but she smashed records.

There was some controversy at the time about whether someone so young should be allowed to do such a trip. Our news does tend to have a geographic bias though.

anyway, we got chatting and i suggested that it would be great for oz to have a perfect working replica of cook's ship. i was pretty sure the plans must exist stil.

There’s is one!

 

[viago]

typical of this place.

my specific question was about mast height which has not been answered or even discussed.

also, what about this 16 year old ozy?

she makes my heros chichester and knox johnstone irrellevent.

 

[jane444blue]

I sailed on the Endeavour replica when she was here in the early 2000's She was great with an all Aussie crew and us paying ones. All true to the original except the ness deck with galley, heads and showers. Slept in hammocks - best nights sleep. Went up the yards. Had a brilliant time

 

[ylop]

typical of this place.

my specific question was about mast height which has not been answered or even discussed.

I know there’s some really old people here but nobody is so old to definitively answer how big her masts were if there is some controversy about the records.

also, what about this 16 year old ozy?

she makes my heros chichester and knox johnstone irrellevent.

Not entirely - she made the journey in a time with modern materials and technology, and took a shorter route than they did. Without their pioneering I doubt at 16 she’d have tried it.

But there’s a book and documentaries about her trip and I recall magazine coverage at the time. It’s all there for you to go research since you are interested.

 

[st599]

I know there’s some really old people here but nobody is so old to definitively answer how big her masts were if there is some controversy about the records.

Not entirely - she made the journey in a time with modern materials and technology, and took a shorter route than they did. Without their pioneering I doubt at 16 she’d have tried it.

But there’s a book and documentaries about her trip and I recall magazine coverage at the time. It’s all there for you to go research since you are interested.

I thin I remember she hit a container ship at one point.

 

[Blueboatman]

typical of this place.

my specific question was about mast height which has not been answered or even discussed.

also, what about this 16 year old ozy?

she makes my heros chichester and knox johnstone irrellevent.

I will attempt to answer what appears to be a serious text

In the last but one Golden Globe Race, the winning Frenchman had not one but two new masts made eventually, having spent a winter ‘ patrolling ‘ the North Atlantic evaluating his old boat before deciding that the benefits of a shorted rig outweighed the few opportunities to pile on maximum sail on.. subsequently he was rolled and didn’t lost the rig which he attributed to its being a tad shorted than original ..

Those old Endeavour era boats had a lot of windage up aloft. Reefing might involve striking the top masts down before a storm in order to make the boat more storm able..

So prudently the shorter masts might have been a smart choice and not just to do with the righting moment offered by a shallow hull?

Are you going to (re) offer Cooks galley cooking in due course? Hard tack, weevils and wotnots on toast, sort of thing.