Convert Taylors Diesel Cabin Heater to Electric Pump??

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Substantial overkill I would have thought given that its power consumption is 1.5Ah while the Taylors version is 0.01Ah, plus it has a flow rate of 80 litres/hour while the heater uses 0.3 litres/hour.

Also you need to match the pressure that the pump maintains against that required by the heater - a value which I can't find at the moment.
 
Could you use a Webasto/Eberspacher fuel pump, £40/£50 from dieselheaters4u on ebay? They do make a knocking noise so would need dampening...
 
richardm47 said:
I'd like to set up an electric-pumped supply of diesel to my Taylors 079D cabin heater. Has anyone done this?

Would this pump be ok, do you think?

http://fuelpumpsuk.com/media/catalo...33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/c/o/compact_mojo.jpg

http://fuelpumpsuk.com/fuel-pumps/12-volt-compact-fuel-pump.html

Costs £65 versus loads of money for the official Taylors listed pump.

Any tips on the conversion gratefully received.
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Fitted one on my last boat and pumped the fuel from the main tank. I ordered the proper taylors pump for a vast sum of money. this turned out to be nothing more than a vintage S.U. car fuel pump. The reason it takes so little current is a solenoid activates the diaphragm one way then a spring pushes it another. running at the miserly consumption of your 079d it will activate maybe 3 times a minute tops. So it takes 5 or 6 amps for about a nano second 3 times a minute = square root of nothing in terms of ampere hours.

Do save yourself a fortune and get an old mini or morris minor pump off ebay.
Dont get the proper one from taylors its the same and costs 50 times as much.
Make sure the wiring is of a decent gauge because when it does operate it takes a fair bit of current my 5 or 6 amps above is probably an underestimate.

oh yes and if you dont use it for a while (summer?) then it wont work tap it with a hammer or the back of a wrench that will get it going. My dad gave me that tip he said he had to do it on some of the cars he drove of that era.

I tee'd my fuel off the engine which they(taylors) recommended against but never had a problem. One thing I thought that was good was becuase I was using the heater all winter when the boat was out of commision I was using all the fuel from the bottom of the tank. If there was any sludge or contaminant then the heater would have burned it up, rather than it going into the engine in the spring.

enjoy!
 
I did the same using the tank down to....the point where Upon heading round to the fuel dock the engine quit, ahem.
No one would have noticed as I glided neatly alongside except that the engine alarm is very loud ahem.
Makes one a genuine 60/40 user tho.
 
Thanks all, I think I'll try the mini route.

Bought the cabin heater with the boat 4 years ago, and tried hard every spring to get the heater working. No good, lots of swearing, eventually the weather warmed up. But the last 2 weeks I've been stuck in Mallaig trying to get some proper work done. So cold that I took some time off that to have another go at the heater. Guess what, the PO had stuffed a plastic bag containing his stock of asbestos sealing strip into the chimney near the deck fitting. Nearly but not quite blocked it, no wonder it wouldnt light! Probably intended to remove it and then seal the gaps. But forgot!

Four years later, here in Mallaig, I discovered the blockage and removed it, bodged up a fuel supply with a plastic milk bottle suspended from saloon hand rail, plastic pipe etc, and got a roaring fire. Yippee!

(Is that a record long time for diagnosing a boat problem?)
 
richardm47 said:
Guess what, the PO had stuffed a plastic bag containing his stock of asbestos sealing strip into the chimney near the deck fitting. Nearly but not quite blocked it, no wonder it wouldnt light! Probably intended to remove it and then seal the gaps. But forgot!
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surprised your efforts didnt blow it out. Afterall the whole thing is pretty much like a cannon in its design.

first time I used mine, I didnt have any meths. Grinning like a bafoon I employed mans instinctive fallback BBQ lighting technique. If in doubt... petrol. I squirted petrol out of the dinghy outboard into it, stuck the cricket lighter into the hole and BOOM! blew the chimney pot of the top. quite an impresive mushroom cloud above decks by all accounts too. Pretty gnarly for cosy weekend at the boat.

Joking aside thats why you must never re-light the thing until its cooled down either after use or a failed start 'cause if its hot it will vapourise the meths and reproduce the above incendary effects.

p.s. just had a quick look for you this is the sort of pump:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USED-CLAS...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a6a5222e9

although im not saying buy THAT one just wanted to show you what it looks like cause there are a few different designs. Luckily mine came from taylors and cost me over £300. Bas*?rds.
 
If you are going to mount the pump down near the tank and pump fuel up to the heater, make sure you get the right type of pump.

The old SU fuel pumps could be divided into two categories. Those that were mounted near the engine had a strong suck and a weak blow. Those that were mounted at the rear, near the tank, had a strong blow and weak suck. If I remember correctly you could tell the difference by the length of the body. Can't remember which was which. (hope that bit gets past the Mod's:D)

I had a 1958 Rover90 once, which had been fitted with a pump from a Series 1 Landrover. The engine used to die half way up every steep hill. Until I worked out what was wrong with it.:(
 
Good point.
Just in case the OP reads this. As an example. The pump I quoted and use is an exact replacement for the Taylors unit that came with the heater and it is mounted at a level in line with the top of the fuel tank but via a wee inline filter unit which is fitted below the tank in the engines grp sump moulding. The feed pipe then returns to below-the-cabin-sole level and pops up next to the heater itself.
 
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