Comments by a shore-based teacher of 8 years standing

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these feral disaffected kids arent wanted, by their mothers, their absentee fathers or the rest of us in society.

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This quote made by a shore-based teacher in reply to getting youngsters involved in boating. To be clear that included disaffected, disadvantaged, disabled, excluded youngsters.

Perhaps the panel would like to comment on whether they agree or not so that general opinion may be guaged.
 
I will certainly put it there but it is boaty and of concern to all. Please explain why - don't understand. Swept under the carpet or..
 
Must confess, I would like to see the full text, not just your interpretation of the actual context and WHICH groups it includes..
There are Ferel kids.. too many of the darn beggars, and if he refers to them absolutely...
 
I don't know the origin of the quote, but as an RYA dinghy instructor I sometimes work for the local council's outdoor education department. It used to be a mix of kids with a common interest in learning to sail, Duke of Edinburgh awards etc, but these days it invariably is the problem kids who just want to make trouble and sending them on a sailing course is just the schools way of getting a break. These kids have no interest in sailing, but they take up places that could be used by other kids who want to learn. It appears that if you behave yourself in school you have no chance of any extra curricalar activities since they are all occupied by the troublemakers.
 
Hi Danny.
I must refer (Albeit loosely as I ain't got the mag in front of me) the fiasco with the GM4 and the dossers they took onboard that were quoted in some of the mags... Kirsty, Kylie, HunnyBunny, Passionfruit or possibly 'our thuglet) or whatever she was called still wanted to be a 'hurdresser' at the end of it all.. huh ?? what was the point, she probably didn't want to do it in the first place.. AND .. some thug 'lad' was commented on after a very long offshore sail, as 'has the making of a good crew one day' ?? eh ??.. HOW MUCH does it take to become a 'crew' member..

Yes, same as letting the little buggers drive banger racing cars.. allows them to steal them and race them more efficiently..

Lethal injection for some might be better.. certainly NOT sail training suggested by misguided do gooders and WI outcasts.

Sorry to others, but they are NOT all poor little children who just missed out on opportunities, many are just plain dross who will forever misuse and exploit the systems in place.

They should do an IQ test on the parents before they are allowed to procreate... but, of course, that would be non PC...

It must have been hard on GM4 with the leg tags hitting the fixtures ??.. I can accept that...
Or, indeed, send them to a special need school to be taught by possibly a 7/7 bomber who was radicalised...

Its a crazy world of do gooders who wouldn't know their behind from the end of their funny bone.

Sheeeesh /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
T o be fair to the person, I remember reading the thread, may also have contributed to it. It was a long thread in which if I remember correctly he made a number of valid points and it was in response to robust comment by yourself. Think the original thread was called something like 'money, money,money'
 
errrrrrrmmm,

you are probably going to attract more views from off to the right of Genghis Khan with a post like this than anything.

I just don't think it will help maintain the extremely helpful and friendly nature of Reader to Reader, but that's your shout.
 
a. ?? what..

What, that I DONT think that ALL people are born equal or capable of being a good person ???

or....

That I DONT do PC bs.. there are so many uneducatable, lost cause muppets out there that it is a reflection on the state of the US and Brit economy.. (Closely alligned).. I have no axe to grind.. I just DONT accept that all are the same..

SOME.. are just total lost causes, and why spend money on them..
Its not a new thing, I had 23 years in the NHS.. do you think they treat ALL the same.. ? no way ....
If its not curable, write it off.. if its not cost effective in relation to the benefit to society, write it off.
If you think otherwise, I am sad to say that I think you may be on a different planet to me..

DO I agree with it ??.. well, years ago I didnt, but then I got older and to be fair, YES.. its not worth throwing good money after bad.. AND, however we think, on the west, its ALL about money..
 
The quote is an unattributed one from an "opponent" in the argument Tangomoon is still continuing on the Bristol Channel forum. He has been asked to take it to the Lounge or PM's, but seems insistent on bringing it up in another inappropriate place.

It may well be boaty, but it definitely isn't practical boat owner, and it is spoiling the friendly ambience of "our" BC forum. IMO. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
 
AND, however we think, on the west, its ALL about money.. PM me for sales of S/H Amateur etc etc

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Well it obviously is for you ..but please don't assume everyone has the same priorities. Think about your own life -did no one ever give you a break or did you sweat for everything you have?

As for the kids well, I grew up ok I think, despite the d.a. haircut and the fights, the razor gangs and ... sorry drifted off again there.


Edit :- why isn't this in the lounge? moderator on holiday again/still?
 
Damo, in keeping with the person you mention, I see you too operate on poor information. That is the cause of unfriendly comments such as yours.

1) Look in the Lounge and you will find this there.

2) My last post on the BC said I had no more to say.
 
Damo is one of the most informed, tolerant and able people it has been my pleasure to meet.
I am also entirely unconvinced by the concept of "shore based (sailing) instructor"
Nicki
 
It says shore-based TEACHER it doesn't say what in. Those are your additions.

Thank you for Damo's unsolicited character reference, however, if he got it wrong he got it wrong.
 
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