Coelan... again...

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With several public appearances approaching, I really must get Crystal tidied up. So allow me to approach the subject of Coelan again...

The plan is to sand the knackered varnish back to bare teak, apply an industrial teak cleaner I obtained via the rear compartment of a freight vehicle (perhaps a couple of goes) and then slap on Coelan in the prescribed manner.

I've had a look at a previous thread, but can anyone suggest a good formula for the amount of thinners used per coat, and how many coats ought to be necessary? The obvious intention here is not to have to do it again too soon.

The other difficulty is that I'm having a hell of a job actually finding the stuff anywhere on the web, and being based in London, my chandlery options seem few and far between. I read somewhere that it needs to be fresh, and not have been sitting in it's tin for months. Has anyone tried getting it direct from the manufacturer?

All advice gratefully received.

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The product instructions give the exact amounts - 10-20% of thinner for vertical surfaces. I tried to do horizontal surfaces neat and wished I hadn't - I would have had a much better (flatter) result with thinned coats. You are looking at a minimum of 5 coats but again expect to use 7 or 8. The best guide is that they quote a usage rate and say that the trick is to get 1 litre of coelan onto 1 sq metre - this means you calculate your raw materials, thin as much as you need (the colder it is use more thinner) and keep putting on coats until all is used up.
 

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Re: Coelan UK distributor...

Don't lose heart Contributing Editor - you do a wonderful job.

Suggest /<rystal gets his search engine de-winterised if he isn't going to read the small print in CB!

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I would not use the teak cleaner. Coelan specifically recommend against using ANYTHING under the first coat by way of a surface cleaner. Just sand back to a good surface.
 

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Re: Coelan UK distributor...

Contributing Editor should speak to distributors about why W H Smith outlets everywhere have never heard of CB. I can get a copy from News On The Wharf if they're feeling flush, but I gave up after the number of "never heard of it"s ran into double figures...

...and as far as the search engine goes, I did try but it was about as effective as Crys's Yanmar - barely even turned over, let alone start throwing anything out at me.

...but thanks for the info, Peter!! Hoping to see you soon...
 

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Always read the label

This is another thing. I was looking at their website for any kind of useful recommendations, but could only find a glossy PDF telling me what I already knew. I will sand. This year, I intend to varnish all horizontal surfaces (previous owner didn't, because of the short life of conventional varnish) including cabin sole with the granules thrown in, so good job my Grandad has an enormous orbital sander!!

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Re: Cabin Floor Varnish

Thanks for raising that one /<rystal - we want to varnish our floorboards this spring. We use Epifanes which is wonderful for most varnished items, but down below would like something less shiny, and certainly something less slippy underfoot - but I don't want to use granules. Is there a non-slip satin finish varnish commonly used for this purpose? Ideally it should be fairly durable.

Francis Fletcher

PS Speak to my wife nicely - I did and she bought me a CB subscription for my birthday - I think officially it was actually given to me by our dogs.
 

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Re: Cabin Floor Varnish

Mirelle has a tin of satin finish Coelan, bought by mistake, which you are welcome to; it's old and rusty but has never been opened so it should be OK.

Mirelle's floorboards are bare teak, which is fine until you drop the butter...since they are quite thick they get sanded ruthlessly each year.
 

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Re: Cabin Floor Varnish

Thats very generous of you Mirelle.

Currently there is (worn) varnish on the floorboards, and if possible I have no intention of going back to bare wood. I supect that rules out Coelan.

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Re: Cabin Floor Varnish

OK in that case you can have the two tins of flat Epifanes (also ancient) that I have never found a use for either!
 

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A most improper suggestion!

Are you suggesting that your wife (or dogs) would buy me a subscription to CB if I spoke to her nicely?!

Well, I've only met her a few times, but if you think it will work...

It's my birthday in just over a week, so I will probably add a subscription to cheer up the less-than-inspiring wish list of a large can of Coelan, another large can of Coelan, a can of deck paint... she get's all the presents these days. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Incidentally, what don't you like about granules? I've never even seen them, let alone use them, so I don't know if it's the right choice or not.
 

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Re: Granules

I love granules - especially coffee granules.

I even like non-slip granules in the right place, such as mixed with white paint on the floor of our Tinker Tramp. We also used them in the deck paint on Kilter, our Finesse 24. I just think the idea of putting them in varnish, the ultimate smooth finish, is awful. I'd rather use less slippery varnish.

Re. my wife - I don't know - all I know is it worked for me.

Seriously, and sucking up to the contributing editor, a subscription to CB is the answer - you get it even earlier than the people who live next door to a WH Smith which has heard of it, and you never miss an issue. Its also a rather nice present in that people (and dogs) enjoy giving it.

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Re: Granules

I love granules - especially coffee granules.

I even like non-slip granules in the right place, such as mixed with white paint on the floor of our Tinker Tramp. We also used them in the deck paint on Kilter, our Finesse 24. I just think the idea of putting them in varnish, the ultimate smooth finish, is awful. I'd rather use less slippery varnish.

Re. my wife - I don't know - all I know is it worked for me.

Seriously, and sucking up to the contributing editor, a subscription to CB is the answer - you get it even earlier than the people who live next door to a WH Smith which has heard of it, and you never miss an issue. Its also a rather nice present in that people (and dogs) enjoy giving it.

Francis Fletcher
 

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Re: Granules

I love granules - especially coffee granules.

I even like non-slip granules in the right place, such as mixed with white paint on the floor of our Tinker Tramp. We also used them in the deck paint on Kilter, our Finesse 24. I just think the idea of putting them in varnish, the ultimate smooth finish, is awful. I'd rather use less slippery varnish.

Re. my wife - I don't know - all I know is it worked for me.

Seriously, and sucking up to the contributing editor, a subscription to CB is the answer - you get it even earlier than the people who live next door to a WH Smith which has heard of it, and you never miss an issue. Its also a rather nice present in that people (and dogs) enjoy giving it.

Francis Fletcher
 

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Re: Crashed Forum

Hello again /<rystal

Don't know what happened then, but I pressed the submit button on my posting a couple of days ago and nothing happened. I tried again a couple of times - the next thing I knew the forum crashed. Its now reappeared with my posting in triplicate.

Closed for scheduled maintenance my foot - I think the forum closed because I broke it!

Francis Fletcher
 
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