Claymore's Engine -Part Two

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After a deal of excellent advice offered in the original post and a fairly damning report on the state of the present engine - described as a tired old thing with complex, life threatening conditions, the bullet has to be bitten.
For anyone considering replacing their engine, I also found an excellent book which I downloaded in kindle format onto my Aye Pad. 'Replacing your boat engine'by Michael Westin and published by Adlard Coles.
The old engine has issues with the Block, Crank, Pistons, Timing Chain, Cylinder Head, Oil Seals and Injectors, all of which leaves me wondering how it started so well and ran so sweetly!
Anyway, replacing the 1.8 BMC will be a 35hp Beta.
Thank you once more for the advice and comments made in the previous post.
 
If you can video it at length starting from cold and hot and running at various speeds, preferably under way. It'll make an ebay sale much easier and show it is accurately described. You'll still get a bob or three for an engine/gearbox that starts easily and runs sweetly, no harm in saying that as long as you point out its age and don't make false claims.
 
Claysie, me topical auld teuchter. I've just waded through your interminable First Chapter ( all 6 pages ) and feel your pain.

I had a nearly analogous situation, with a marinised Kubota tractor engine in a 40-year old boat... which ran. The local Kubota specialist here in Bath - someone that a dozen agricultural engineers reckoned as 'the best in the west' - opined that the thing might well go on forever, but if it didn't, getting spares could take quite some time and the costs of sorting something that couldn't be hauled into his front yard on the back of a truck , investigating, fixing and refitting afterwards could swiftly amount to more than half the cost of a new engine.

Like you, I 'bit the bullet', preferring the confidence of a new and reliable lump to constantly making allowances for 'what if'. I've done my share of making port under sail with a dead engine, and it becomes 'no longer fun' in a rising NW gale off the south end of Islay.

In my case, I hoiked the old engine out using 'a suitable system of levers' and lowered it groundwards without losing fingers. Blurry miracle, for which I lit four candles.... In the afterglow, I stuck a pic on another boaty forum, and it sold in less than 24 hours. Interestingly, it went back into a similar boat!

I plumped for a Beta 14, perhaps due to the skilled salesmanship of their Boat Show Guru, and that seems to have been a fortunate decision, for Beta's guys - the CEO, the owner, his son and others - have been hugely supportive. But... they're busy. Rightly so.

A word. Do have your engineer guys have a close look at the systems you may want to re-use - especially access to bits that need 'hands on' such as engine zincs, gearbox filler, also the exhaust setup and sizes, the Morse 33 engine control cables, the raw water inlet/strainer and piping to the r/w pump. All of these I've discovered needed 'changes', and it's better/cheaper to know about them in advance.

The blokes at Beta are very helpful, and my being able to communicate easily ( without engineers' vocabulary ), and on occasion visit them, has been of great help. If there's something like that I can do for you, for they're not an hour away, just mention it.
 
Yer a guid man , Willieboy. Thanks for the heads up - I am planning that Ardfern will install it but will go over the issues you mention - the whole exhaust system was renewed not that long ago, as well as the anti-syphon thingie, cutlass bearing and a few other bits and pieces.
How are you?
Xx
 
Hello Claymore.
4 years ago while on the hard at Glasson Dock, I removed my aged VP 2003, replaced it with a Beta 35 I quickly sold my VP and set to work fitting my shiny red Beta, I did all the work myself, just a little help from the lads at Glasson, who lifted old out and new in with their JCB, I found Beta very helpful especially when I had some teething problems, I had a faulty header cap which caused the over heat alarm to sound, while motoring from Piel island to Glasson, I have since fitted a temperature gauge, I was not happy with the raw water flow so exchanged the 6 blade impeller for a ten blade which has made all the difference now runs spot on temp, Beta kindly installed a new gearbox after 300 hrs, it has now done 600 hrs and runs beautifully now.
Mike
 
Hello Mike
Good to hear from you. That is a very happy story but not one I could match - a more cack-handed beggar than me you could not wish to meet! I'm heartened to hear that Paget's Lady runs well with a Beta 35 - bodes well for Claymore! I think I might go for the instrument panel that has oil, water and amps dials - we have them already but apparently they don't transfer too well and a bulit in wiring loom/ harness sounds a less complicated route to my simple mind!
Still in Glasson?
That was particularly unobservant of me - I notice Fleetwood in your profile. Looks rather quiet in there nowadays - increasing risk of the sandbar blocking you all in methinks!!
 
claymore said:
Hello Mike
Good to hear from you. That is a very happy story but not one I could match - a more cack-handed beggar than me you could not wish to meet! I'm heartened to hear that Paget's Lady runs well with a Beta 35 - bodes well for Claymore! I think I might go for the instrument panel that has oil, water and amps dials - we have them already but apparently they don't transfer too well and a bulit in wiring loom/ harness sounds a less complicated route to my simple mind!
Still in Glasson?
That was particularly unobservant of me - I notice Fleetwood in your profile. Looks rather quiet in there nowadays - increasing risk of the sandbar blocking you all in methinks!![/QUOTE
Hello, last time we met was on Piel island we had a barbecue wow that is some time ago, Pagets Lady is in Fleetwood but I always go to Glasson to lift out each year end of March then I am off south to Jersey. I am sure your new Beta will be great, where is Claymore berthed now.
Best wishes Mike
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A Beta 35 you say?
Taking up water skiing at your age? We'll never catch you now. Good luck with the installation.

Donald
 
I'm glad to be keeping you active with my fascinating deliberations - of course I am delighted to have been talked down from a Beta 50- although the original thinking was that because the old engine is rated at 48hp, I thought I'd be needing something of a similar size. Ignorance is bliss and now I am blissful because we are home from Danelandia and not only that but my old wet suit still fits so I can get back into the water skiing relatively easily.
My question now is do you think I'd be better off with a bathing platform to launch from?
 
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I wonder if Beta could attach an engine-driven pump for you. The idea of the clan being given access to a powerful firehose appeals at BBQs and gentle summer anchorages.
 
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